Worried. Mouth too small? Can't use loose!

[fedora]

Ok. See my other post (one about new snusser, handroller).

I tried my loose. Made a very small, pellet sized pris, put it in. 15 minutes later -- disaster!

Has anyone thought or looked into a mouth being too small??? Stupid question sort of but it seems my "gap" between top of teeth and upper lip extremity is too small for loose - the stuff just drips down and even with no messing around and this miniature pris!

I really want to try the loose straight. When I have a pris in it is sooooo much BETTER than a portion or mini - night and day. I want to get this down so no disaster. I cant afford mudmouth as I don't work in the woods (no offense to anyone - speaking metaphorically) - and don't want to do loose only at night.

Been trying the teabag - make your own portion - but it still isn't the same.

Please help with any advice or anything.

[RobME]

Re: Worried. Mouth too small? Can't use loose!

I tried my loose. Made a very small, pellet sized pris, put it in. 15 minutes later -- disaster!

Please help with any advice or anything.

Seems like you should upsize the pris, pack it firmer, and don't play too much with it after it's in. Watch zero's video a few more times if you haven't already. If all else fails, you'll have to quit your los aspirations, and post back here that you're a los snus failure. Then we can all make fun of you (in a nice way of course). :wink:

Seriously, don't give up... you'll get it. Remember... practice makes better, and then some.

[cocsp2002]

I had a similar problem when I first tried los. Now, some bake tighter and have less drippage than others, but I can keep my general in for 2 or more hours, so I'd recommend something like general or roda lacket that bakes really easy to start with. Also, I wasn't putting the pris high enough to start with. Push it as far up there as possible without crushing the pris and then pull your lip over it so your lip pulling back up to its normal position kind of holds the pris in. The edges will dissolve and drip a little, and you'll get a little in your teeth, but the major portion of your pris (like 85-90%) will stay put. I dunno, give it a try, tell me what you think.

[holnrew]

Don't give up, you'll find a way that suits you soon.

[Xobeloot]

Loose always takes a personal touch. Eventually you will find what size pris works for you, how to manage it, etc.

[bondzai]

I don't think loose is 'neat' so as long as you get some inbetween your lip and gum, you got it ok. If you want neat, use portions.

[Jason]

Unfortunately, you're going to get mudmouth no matter what; it just comes with using los. :wink: The longer you use snus, the more your lip will stretch, so maybe you haven't had enough time to get a good "pocket" going yet...

[Tedster]

It's kind of like learning to whistle. You may figure it out the first day, or it may take a few weeks to figure it out.

[fedora]

Thanks for all your support guys.

I'm trying a new method I haven't seen here. Its the "snus ball". I make a round pris. Small - no more than about 1cm across. Even smaller.

Put that right up, closest to the middle of the upper lip without crossing the small flap of skin (saw someone else make mention of that). So far, held it up there about 20 minutes so far. So it is better. Will keep working this.

Of the three I got, landsroms, roda lacket and probe whiskey, like the probe the most.

Will keep everone posted.

[BoleCailey]

Thanks for all your support guys.

I'm trying a new method I haven't seen here. Its the "snus ball". I make a round pris. Small - no more than about 1cm across. Even smaller.

Put that right up, closest to the middle of the upper lip without crossing the small flap of skin (saw someone else make mention of that). So far, held it up there about 20 minutes so far. So it is better. Will keep working this.

Of the three I got, landsroms, roda lacket and probe whiskey, like the probe the most.

Will keep everone posted.

You need to up the size of your pris. If I don't use enough tobacco in my pris, it tends to come apart in my mouth (I have no problem with 3+ hours). The same can be said about dip.

[bakerbarber]

Try a prismaster. Put the snus in and don't fiddle with it. Get it up high from the beginning and enjoy.

[rollinred]

Everyone always seems to give the same tips on loose use. Big enough pris, dont touch it with the tounge, dry out the lip, etc... But the best tip I have is to do opposite of what they say. What this will soon do for you is get your mouth use to the weird taste that tobacco and nicotine will give, get your lip use to the weed you want it to handle, and actually dry out to salivation points in you lip that will help you use loose snus.

Unfortunatly I am not in your shoes so I can give the best advice, but I do know that my dentist does not like me because I drink so much liquid that my saliva glands put out more fluid than their tools can deal with. And when I first started dipping tobacco, the american stuff, I was spitting constantly. thankfully at this point I learned to actually controll my salivation glands, 99% of people can not do that but once I did it made the snuff/snus experience much better.