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  • Reynard
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    • Feb 2009
    • 804

    #16
    Originally posted by deebocools View Post
    Nicotine doesn't help you do anything. It doesn't help with stress, it doesn't help with concentration, it's all a lie.
    False, I suggest you read this paper - Nicotine as Therapy

    I wouldn't use it if it didn't do me immense good. It is scientifically proven to help with concentration, memory and stress, and with pretty much every neurological disorder going, and helps to prevent degenerative neurological disease, as bigblue pointed out. You're just spouting the usual clichéd stigma that tobacco is entrenched in.

    Furthermore, don't think nicotine is the only thing you're addicted to. Try quitting sugar, or grains.

    That aside, good luck. We're all on different paths.
    Last edited by Reynard; 03-01-14, 08:19 AM.

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    • OregonNative
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 647

      #17
      If you are really trying to quit; all the power to you. As Rick mentioned above, if you aren't already addicted it would just be best not to start.

      However; I don't see myself ever quitting. I enjoy snus way to much to quit; when you couple that with the low(er) health risks, low(ish) cost, and the ease of use (not having to deal with smoking bans), I just don't see myself quitting. I'm not saying this to be a douche; I really do wish you all the luck in the world if you're trying to quit.

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      • trebli
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 797

        #18
        Originally posted by Vulpes View Post
        False, I suggest you read this paper - Nicotine as Therapy

        I wouldn't use it if it didn't do me immense good. It is scientifically proven to help with concentration, memory and stress, and with pretty much every neurological disorder going, and helps to prevent degenerative neurological disease, as bigblue pointed out. You're just spouting the usual clichéd stigma that tobacco is entrenched in.

        Furthermore, don't think nicotine is the only thing you're addicted to. Try quitting sugar, or grains.

        That aside, good luck. We're all on different paths.
        Thanks for posting this. That is a great link. I bookmarked it for future reference.

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        • DanF
          Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 260

          #19
          Originally posted by Vulpes View Post

          I suggest you read this paper - Nicotine as Therapy

          It is scientifically proven to help with concentration, memory and stress, and with pretty much every neurological disorder going, and helps to prevent degenerative neurological disease, as bigblue pointed out.

          +1

          Dan

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          • choligeetu
            New Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 11

            #20
            Thanks anyway~but i'd rather believe most of us are here and like snus just for fun, and for a lifestyle, not purely for nicotine.

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            • Bigblue1
              Banned Users
              • Dec 2008
              • 3923

              #21
              Originally posted by choligeetu View Post
              Thanks anyway~but i'd rather believe most of us are here and like snus just for fun, and for a lifestyle, not purely for nicotine.
              Nobodies saying it can't be both. Maybe you find it fun and a lifestyle is because the parts of your brain that tell you that are effected nicely by it. Truth is none of Us really exactly know; what I believe the majority of us do realize is that it's better than what we use to do to get the nicotine. I totally understand where deebecools was coming from, He apparently wants to quit and sometimes people need to (over) vilify the things they don't want to do anymore. It's not a very proven way of quitting tho. It's what the kick the can guys and aa'rs do. Not sure about the KC'rs but I know AA works for a very tiny amount of people. The recidivism rate is abhorrent and there are more people in AA who commit suicide than people who continue to drink. The chances of spontaneous abstinence are much greater and can also be contributed to some of the meager success the AA cult takes ownership of. I know where not talking alcohol and drugs but it's a small stretch to make the comparison, especially since Nicotine is always compared to heroin when it comes to addictiveness and probably the second worst and probably more dangerous withdrawal syndrome is from alcohol. Anyway whatever get's you thru the night is the most important thing. Never meant for extremely frosted to go off on me for pointing out something nor did I want it to become a bitch thread. I would just hate to see someone who is in the same situation I was in 6 yrs ago happen to get some erroneous info on a quick google search.....Also I believe most of us see the benefits in harm reduction so I will also post a link for the Hams network which is mainly based in Alcohol but may be of some value here as well.....

              http://hamsnetwork.org/

              http://www.orange-papers.org/
              Last edited by Bigblue1; 06-01-14, 09:43 AM.

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              • DanF
                Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 260

                #22
                Originally posted by choligeetu View Post

                Thanks anyway~but i'd rather believe most of us are here and like snus just for fun, and for a lifestyle, not purely for nicotine.

                That leads me to ask why non alcoholic beer and spirits aren't flying off the store shelves?

                Dan

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