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  • Skell18
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 7067

    #16
    Originally posted by Nicadict View Post
    Thanks! I can totally relate, I had no problems with the General normal flavored but the minty one is just horrible for my gums, they feel like rubber and the skin of my inner lips are now red. I'm gonna go see a dentist soon, im just freaking out lol.
    Snus doesn't cause cancer so I wouldn't worry about it. A dentist friend of mine once told me that if you have sores in your mouth that are painful, its nothing bad to worry about, its if its not painful you need to worry, but even then, the chance of it being anything bad is so minute its never anything to get worked up about.

    It sounds like you are having a reaction to the flavouring in the mint snus, I can get some irritation if I use a heavily flavoured snus, N&J Radical Red irritates my gums, but once they get used to it, its fine. WHy the sudden need to go minty if the regular general was fine? I'm not a big mint or wintergreen fan anyway precisley because they burn the hell out of my gums lol.

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    • Nicadict
      Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 43

      #17
      I just like the taste, i love mint. But I'm stopping anyway. Damn ill miss snus

      I know I shouldnt worry but I'm a freaking hypocondriac. It's hard to not be affraid of lesion when you use tobacco.

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      • piks101
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 691

        #18
        Dude, ok your gums are irritated, got it. Get a grip don't snus for a few days/weeks and see if you start to see improvement. Sounds like you already are. Let your gums heal up and if you can't stand the nic withdrawls get a patch or just quit cold turkey. If I was as worried as you I would just quit. I have zero issues and I have worked through gum issues numerous times. I was just like this snus is irritating my gums and switched to a snus that didn't. No biggie. Sounds like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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        • Nicadict
          Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 43

          #19
          Originally posted by piks101 View Post
          Dude, ok your gums are irritated, got it. Get a grip don't snus for a few days/weeks and see if you start to see improvement. Sounds like you already are. Let your gums heal up and if you can't stand the nic withdrawls get a patch or just quit cold turkey. If I was as worried as you I would just quit. I have zero issues and I have worked through gum issues numerous times. I was just like this snus is irritating my gums and switched to a snus that didn't. No biggie. Sounds like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
          yeah you are surely right, but theres always this doubt in my head you know. I'm an anxious man, quitting is what im gonna do. I made this post for insight information and maybe information for the next ones to have this issue and that are extremely anxious. I think you guys can help me stop by telling me tips. And having some kind of "support group" really helps when u wanna do or stop doing something.

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          • piks101
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 691

            #20
            Ok, didn't mean to come across as harsh just kind of a get a grip, relax, take a breath etc.. Seriously, my recommendation would be to try Northerner purified, your gums should not be irritated with this snus, get your nicotine, then when you are in a better frame of mind and less anxious quit using the Northerner, if you choose to do so but I don't think you are going to be as successful at quitting and may exacerbate your issues if you go cold turkey in your current state of mind.

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            • Premium Parrots
              Super Moderators
              • Feb 2008
              • 9758

              #21
              Nicadick, If I may ask...how old are you?

              That info might help us determine where you are coming from. If you know what I mean.
              we do want to help and all the info we can get helps us to determine how to answer and help you solve the issues.

              just curious
              Last edited by Premium Parrots; 03-03-14, 05:58 AM.
              Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





              I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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              • Nicadict
                Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 43

                #22
                Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                Nicadick, If I may ask...how old are you?

                That info might help us determine where you are coming from. If you know what I mean.
                we do want to help and all the info we can get helps us to determine how to answer and help you solve the issues.

                just curious
                I'm 21, I'm a college student.

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                • Premium Parrots
                  Super Moderators
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 9758

                  #23
                  you are young mate. Get off the nicotine wagon asap. Snus is a way to help people that are addicted to nicotine to stop using dangerous forms of tobacco and maybe someday quit tobacco altogether. If you can totally stop now its way easier than trying to stop using tobacco later.



                  I wish I was 21 and a college student.
                  Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                  I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                  • Nicadict
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 43

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                    you are young mate. Get off the nicotine wagon asap. Snus is a way to help people that are addicted to nicotine to stop using dangerous forms of tobacco and maybe someday quit tobacco altogether. If you can totally stop now its way easier than trying to stop using tobacco later.



                    I wish I was 21 and a college student.
                    I'm kind of tired of being a college student. You know, always being stressed out, looking for jobs all the time. And since im studying in a really competitive field I need to have really good grades so I can have a good job. I think the high amount of stress I have is one of the reasons why I got addicted to tobacco.

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                    • Thunder_Snus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1316

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                      you are young mate. Get off the nicotine wagon asap. Snus is a way to help people that are addicted to nicotine to stop using dangerous forms of tobacco and maybe someday quit tobacco altogether. If you can totally stop now its way easier than trying to stop using tobacco later.



                      I wish I was 21 and a college student.
                      You never gave me that advice PP . Of course I was 18 and ripping through 2 cans of cope a day. Now I'm 21 and go through a little under a can of snus a day.
                      Nicadict you have nothing to worry about. You can get those same problems by chewing a new flavor/brand of gum, sucking on a lollipop for an long time, small burns from food, and a number of other things. If you think you can quit then do so. If you don't think you can handle the stress of quitting but still want to try to scale it back. If you are using higher level nic snuses scale it down to 8mg then 6mg with something like general silver (do they still make that?) Then those dry portions from northerner. I can't imagine going from 16mg down to 8 then 6 then 3 or whatever those northerner portions are could be too difficult and then from there its just sacraficing 3mg of nicotine however often you snus instead of a much larger amount. If you can't do that then maybe you just need to realize this is part of your life now. I accepted that a long time ago, I will never quit and I am ok with that. I know each little bump i get will go away and I will be fine, I continue to go to my dentist and each time he tells me how much better my mouth is since I quit using dip and he has no idea I use snus. And each time I put in another portion I know I took a huge leap putting in that first snus order toward prolonging my life while still being addicted to nicotine.

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                      • Nicadict
                        Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 43

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Thunder_Snus View Post
                        You never gave me that advice PP . Of course I was 18 and ripping through 2 cans of cope a day. Now I'm 21 and go through a little under a can of snus a day.
                        Nicadict you have nothing to worry about. You can get those same problems by chewing a new flavor/brand of gum, sucking on a lollipop for an long time, small burns from food, and a number of other things. If you think you can quit then do so. If you don't think you can handle the stress of quitting but still want to try to scale it back. If you are using higher level nic snuses scale it down to 8mg then 6mg with something like general silver (do they still make that?) Then those dry portions from northerner. I can't imagine going from 16mg down to 8 then 6 then 3 or whatever those northerner portions are could be too difficult and then from there its just sacraficing 3mg of nicotine however often you snus instead of a much larger amount. If you can't do that then maybe you just need to realize this is part of your life now. I accepted that a long time ago, I will never quit and I am ok with that. I know each little bump i get will go away and I will be fine, I continue to go to my dentist and each time he tells me how much better my mouth is since I quit using dip and he has no idea I use snus. And each time I put in another portion I know I took a huge leap putting in that first snus order toward prolonging my life while still being addicted to nicotine.
                        Thanks for your reaction, it's really appreciated. Omg dude, 2 cans of cope a day, thats a lot. When I dipped, I used to go through a can in 3 days but damn, I loved it. But today its scaring the crap out of me.

                        Today is my second day without snus. I'm feeling well and happy. I don't really get cravings yet. Ill keep you guys updated!

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                        • Tristik
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 654

                          #27
                          ~~
                          Do they sell Breathsavers mints by you? Comes in a roll of about 10 like Lifesavers do. Back when I quit smoking for almost a year (two separate times), I used to chomp the hell out of those all day for the first week or two. Probably 1.5 - 2 rolls a day. They're sugar-free and they help a lot with oral fixation issues.

                          Everything gets smoother after a week or two when the nicotine is completely flushed out of your system and forgotten. But, you'll still get weird, gigantic cravings out of nowhere for a long time. Just have to tell yourself: "Self, this isn't your first craving. You know this will pass just like the others if you just wait long enough. Find something else to think about for a minute."
                          ~~

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                          • Nicadict
                            Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 43

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Tristik View Post
                            ~~
                            Do they sell Breathsavers mints by you? Comes in a roll of about 10 like Lifesavers do. Back when I quit smoking for almost a year (two separate times), I used to chomp the hell out of those all day for the first week or two. Probably 1.5 - 2 rolls a day. They're sugar-free and they help a lot with oral fixation issues.

                            Everything gets smoother after a week or two when the nicotine is completely flushed out of your system and forgotten. But, you'll still get weird, gigantic cravings out of nowhere for a long time. Just have to tell yourself: "Self, this isn't your first craving. You know this will pass just like the others if you just wait long enough. Find something else to think about for a minute."
                            ~~
                            Yeah I think we have that kind of thing here. For now, I've been chewing gum. Thanks for the idea.

                            Btw, I just took an appointment with my dentist on thursday. I need to stop worrying, I'm becoming mad. I watch pictures of erythroplakia and think I have it. I need to stop that omg.
                            I can't wait to see the dentist

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                            • Thunder_Snus
                              Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1316

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nicadict View Post
                              Thanks for your reaction, it's really appreciated. Omg dude, 2 cans of cope a day, thats a lot. When I dipped, I used to go through a can in 3 days but damn, I loved it. But today its scaring the crap out of me.

                              Today is my second day without snus. I'm feeling well and happy. I don't really get cravings yet. Ill keep you guys updated!
                              My bottom lip was not pretty. Constantly wrinkled and pieces of food would get stuck in it that would come unlodged days later. I finally got my first 40 cans of snus and started using it exclusively. After the first day it felt worse i guess from healing but after 2 days my bottom lip was so smooth and wrinkle free I had forgotten that was what your gums were supposed to be like.

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                              • Nicadict
                                Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 43

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Thunder_Snus View Post
                                My bottom lip was not pretty. Constantly wrinkled and pieces of food would get stuck in it that would come unlodged days later. I finally got my first 40 cans of snus and started using it exclusively. After the first day it felt worse i guess from healing but after 2 days my bottom lip was so smooth and wrinkle free I had forgotten that was what your gums were supposed to be like.

                                Huh, that's horrible, have you got some kind of metallic taste in your mouth when these were healing? I'm pretty worried about it.

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