Snus Strength, finding balance, cutting down smoking

[tattooer601]

Balance..is what I need suggestions, if ya got a second.
Man I quit smoking with Snus in 2008 and after pact act I couldn't get Snus, aside from General I lost interest...etc
Ok..
I smoked 2 pks a day, I smoke one now and use like 6 portions a day 8mg General mint.
Something about Snus is accidentally gotten to me.
If I chain snus 8mg then I'll get lazy as hell feeling in the evening....sedated feeling, really similar to a blood sugar crash...makes me feel washed out..not nauseas but totally out of energy, no rapid heart beat but tired.

So I'm trying to find balance to lessen my cigarettes until I'm done with em..mostly I smoke half of a cigarette put it out...etc.

General mint is easy to get and I date the purchase lady at a tobacco warehouse.

Jacobson mint is in route, 11mg I believe.
General mint is 8mg.

I'm trying to find a balance, of strength because Snus does different for me than Smoking "feeling wise;effect".

So I start the day with General mint & chain snus em...about a hour and a half per portion.

I'm thinking the Stark (11mg) first thing and maybe after food,sex...etc ,you know the drill with nicotine...

Does this make freaking sence ....can't seem to get farther reducing smoking at the moment.

I've read EVERY quit smoking thread on this board & I believe my logic is sound.
But I've cut from 2.5 packs a day to 1 & I feel a difference.
Never used Stark Snus but everything I read says switching up between 8mg - 11mg portions through the day, seems smart for my smoking habit to reduce farther.

Help a brother out, ideas anyone?
Thanks to all you guys for the past post....

[tattooer601]

Ok....
Ordered a variety of Snus, mostly extra strong in a effort to find out if that will help.
If nothing else, it'll be a fun experiment & will help stock my freezer, one things sure Snus does well if vacuum packed and frozen, so I'll do that.
Thanks fir any suggestions, I just feel like I could Amp up the nicotine a few times a day and increase my chances.

[Burnsey]

The "down to" pack a day is a tough spot to be in, almost in control, but not..... You can replace the nicotine by volume, but not the nic-hit of a cig which is hard to give up. I started leaving the cigs at home if I went out for the day. Stronger snus will help, I'm sure. Doing doubles isn't quite as satisfying as a good stark tho.

[tattooer601]

Burnsey,
Thanks for your reply.
Yeah I'm kinda hoping I can use Strong portions 3-4 times a day & 8mg portions in-between.

Also I hear V2 and a few others like Odens have a strong enough (quiker hit) than Swetish Match normal 8mg portions.
This will open up options.

Still trying and making steady progress.
I'm getting Snus first in the morning now, I recall that as a HUGE difference from my last quit attempt.

Replacing snus when I'd usually Smoke is easier at the moment effort less actually.
Common Sterks I got 40 tins coming next week & local Jacobson mint locally for backup.

Still headed in a good direction, thanks everyone.

[tattooer601]

Also I'm concidering the idea that sterk snus will also reinforce the fact in my mind/body that if I get used to Strongerlonger portions, I really don't think cigarettes could touch the effects of Snus.
As of now it's the best idea I had to continue on & it'll help to have a freezer full of options.
Thanks

[tattooer601]

Man o man...
Balance is tough with this stuff.
3rd time I've about knocked myself out, I'm thinking with to much nicotine, all fatigue to the tenth power.
So lesson today was to not wake up put a Jakobson mint in first thing...
Knocks me out.

Next idea is to wait till I've at least ate before using a strong portion.

Also....I'm averaging 10, 8mg portions a day.
Saving me 2pks if smokes to the lungs, that's a good thing ....

[tattooer601]

Did a lil better by waiting on taking the stronger snus till later in the day, otherwise I toss it quicker to avoid "to strong" and it's consequences.

[tattooer601]

Just a Project report as it seems.
Snus seems to just be winning this race, takes stark Extra Stark with VERY few 8mg portions in a day to make smoking seem foolish.
Let the Snuson diary show :
Frim 3pks of Marboro Blacks a day ,currently holding no more than 11 in 24 hours.
Aaaand I'm ordering Ultra strong portions to see if that'll be any benefit.

Down 50 cigarettes per 24 hours

Up to 8-14 Stark portions.

Seems to be honesty lighting a cigarette, seems like SNUS I could ordered, because the cigarette can't touch this nicotine content.
Even several in a row, can't touch it.

[simplesmoke]

Just a Project report as it seems.
Snus seems to just be winning this race, takes stark Extra Stark with VERY few 8mg portions in a day to make smoking seem foolish.
Let the Snuson diary show :
Frim 3pks of Marboro Blacks a day ,currently holding no more than 11 in 24 hours.
Aaaand I'm ordering Ultra strong portions to see if that'll be any benefit.

Down 50 cigarettes per 24 hours

Up to 8-14 Stark portions.

Seems to be honesty lighting a cigarette, seems like SNUS I could ordered, because the cigarette can't touch this nicotine content.
Even several in a row, can't touch it.

Good job, sounds like you found the right snus strength levels. Only reason you are still smoking those 11 cigs is probably because the activity is so engraved in your brain (hand to mouth activity) Smoking 3 packs a day is pretty much smoking non stop inst it? I bet if you keep feeding yourself the snus at that level like you have been doing the # of smokes will continue to drop off as your body switches to being OK with your new routine.

So out of curiosity with the extra starks you are using, which brand are you using?, and I assume with 8-14 of those starks a day, your not having any nausea?

Also curious do you get a nice nicotine kick with the strong snus? I still have not tried strong snus and an 8mg portion of regular strength is still not as good as a 4mg general mini mint for me. Was going to try getting strong next time, not the extra strong.

[tattooer601]

Hey hey Simplesmoke,
Jacobson mint is what I'm using the most of at the moment, it's 14mg.
Thunder berry & Frosted Ultra are on my next order, in only getting a few 5 each maybe.
If you've got a local Tobacco shop they can order mint and Wintergreen for you from Phillips & King.

No nausea, now at first man I really noticed the difference.
Going from General white mint to Jacobson mint & lots of times I'd use 2 General mint at once, still the Jaks mint seems stronger.

Jacs mints got a back taste that's sorta herbal,tiny bit like a anise/licorice flavor and they aren't quite as sweet.
Thanks for cheering me on and all your help man.

[MobileSnuser]

I smoked my last one about eight years ago and used snus. I smoked a lot like you and had been smoking since I was like 10 yo. Roughly 35 years of full time smoking.

The short version of how I quit goes like this... For a long time I tried to stay away from strong s us thinking I was getting myself in deeper. When I finally switched up to the strong stuff it took over my smoking and I started wanting the strong soul more than the cigs. Another thing I did was made my own cigarettes. I would only make one when I was ready to smoke it. Hassle right? It slowed me down a little more. Towards the last I started buying tobacco I hated. So yea, I still smoked but I didn't like it too much. When y9u get down to just a couple cigs a day bribe yourself to stop. Find something you want real bad (new fishing rod, computer, phone, etc.) promise yourself you'll but it but only when y9u totally quit smoking for a few days. I did end up on the strong sinus but it was pretty easy to switch back to the regular stuff when I was ready.

My guess is the snus has more nicotine than the cigs you smoke plus if you're smoking on top of the snus you're getting a lot of nic. Heavy nicotine makes me tired feeling. Until I was fully hooked and that don't happen any longer. Consider not smoking when you snus. Switch up a few days, then switch down and see if your body increased its tolerance. The ironic thing is we once got addicted to cigarettes without trying. Now we try to get addicted to snus so we can quit smoking haha. Been there

Lot of typos. Sorry, autocorrect don't know the word snus yet

[tattooer601]

MobileSnuser...

Yeah man me to.
But then I listened to this dude's video and realized he quit a half a pack a day habit and 8mg was how he did it.
See I was like oh shit I'll need nicotine in crack doses...j/k
But I got 14-22 mg and figured I'd make myself sick once to know how much was to much for me.
22mg chained every hour 4 in a row and, well smokes can't do that.
Ya know and it's working smoothly.
Any information you share us appreciated...