Nic-o-pods, "all white" fake snus

[tattooer601]

Several companies are selling different white power, with nicotine added, as "all white" tobacco free Snus.
I honestly fear, this will ruin the Swedish Snus we've all loved over time.
It's being sold as a healthy alternative, but I really fear it will, cause manufacture to begin cutting tobacco with these products in the end, and lesson the quality of traditional Snus.
I wanted to mention it here and get you guys thoughts.

It's being marketed much like vaping is safer than smoking.
My issue is nicotine from the tobacco plant, contains more than nicotine alone, it has all the alkaloids, which have helped many quit smoking.
If these nic-o-pods, become part of diluting traditional Snus, this will change.

Anyone could dip a cotton ball in nicotine or eliquid and try it as Snus.
Just thinking out loud here.

[Chewbacca]

I am with you. Those all white tobacco free nicotine pouches are missing the vital alkaloids.

[tattooer601]

I am with you. Those all white tobacco free nicotine pouches are missing the vital alkaloids.

Also there are a few companies, that are mixing "plant cellulose" to tobacco, in a effort to lower the price of production.
Plant cellulose IS NOT tobacco.

If this continues, we will have diluted Snus and the smoking cessation, will no longer be effective.
Sad to see, I will not support it.

[SnusOn.Com]

Which companies are these @tattooer601 ?

I'm aware that nicotine pouch producers are using plant fibres to fill out their portions as the nicotine/flavour mixture used wouldn't fill out a regular portion's size but not of any adding filler to the snus mix that they use in their snus products.

Personally I agree that nicotine pouches are not the same beast as snus as they don't contain the other alkaloids found in tobacco products that compliment the effect tobacco has on your mind.

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[tattooer601]

No one quoate me, but I believe swedish match G3 line, if part plant cellulose. Aswell as the One series of their products.
This was in an attempt, to cheapen a product line.
I asked when these products where produced, I wonder how long it will be before Snus companies become like cigarette companies, and use binders and low quality tobacco, reshread it and sell it to unknowing consumers.
Answer seems to have been:
Under 6 months.

[tattooer601]

I feel, like this is a terrible move for Snus long term.
A terrible move, if we all consider the percentage of smokers that switched to Snus, because these, will not contain the full spectrum of alkaloids that allowed so many to make the switch from smoking.

[tattooer601]

No I just checked.
G3 & the One series of Swedish match both list "plant fiber" in the ingredients.
The ingredients from General Standard Mint Snus.
The other thumbnail from the "G3" line, same thing checks out for their "one series"

[Jangles]

Is it possible that they are including the materials used for the pouches?

[SnusOn.Com]

@Jangles - Yes, you just beat me to the answer there https://www.swedishmatch.com/Media/P...n-the-garbage/

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[tattooer601]

Is it possible that they are including the materials used for the pouches?

No, because they are adding a plant material that isn't tobacco plant.
This is plant cellulose, so random plant material.
It's only stated in the G3 line and the One line of their budget products.
Tobacco plant scraps would be included in the "Tobacco" part of ingredients, simply because stem "lamina" has been added for years.
But "plant material" is some sort of a filler, to add weight to the portions.
Very sad.
It's only in their lastest budget lines.
G3,One series &G4 ingredients.

[tattooer601]

@SnusOn.Com
I see your point now, regardless it lowers total tobacco weight and reduces the Swedish Snus we e all known. While reducing the alkalosid content, they will reduce the amount of smokers who can quit with Snus.
That's aweful and why I use Snus.

[chadizzy1]

So many people are getting offended by nicotine pouches, and I really don't get it.

These products are not snus. These products are not replacing snus.

To be clear - I support tobacco harm reduction. These products help people quit smoking.

If someone wants to quit tobacco but can't quit nicotine, we should not be gatekeeping, there's no point in that.

I support ANYTHING that helps people quit smoking and is safer than combustible tobacco.

[Mr. Unloadingzone]

I admit to using nicotine pods when I go to bed at night. No tobacco stains on the pillow....

[SnusOn.Com]

So many people are getting offended by nicotine pouches, and I really don't get it.

These products are not snus. These products are not replacing snus.

To be clear - I support tobacco harm reduction. These products help people quit smoking.

If someone wants to quit tobacco but can't quit nicotine, we should not be gatekeeping, there's no point in that.

I support ANYTHING that helps people quit smoking and is safer than combustible tobacco.

Thanks for sharing with us what you support Chad.

I don't think anyone's getting offended over nicotine pouches more concerned at them stealing the limelight from snus recently from an e-tailer marketing perspective together with an anxiety that they may become a more popular smokeless product than snus sidelining snus which would be really sad as it is a product that very effectively bridges the gap between NRT & cigarettes which has helped so many people quit cigarettes where NRT has failed. That's not to say there's anything wrong with NRT products & nicotine pouches. NRT does help some people with their desire to quit nicotine.

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[tattooer601]

I agree with SnusOn.Com, here.

I couldn't quit smoking with vaping, in 2006 I found Snus, it had a few minor alkaloids that helped those that vaping couldn't . That being said, my concern with these nic-o-pods is this:

This opens a new way that Swedish Snus could be diluted and the actual tobacco amount per tin be decreased, hypothetically speaking.
Swedish match is already, using plant material to reduce the Tobacco weight in a few lines of products.
I fear the next step from a business standpoint would be to vastly reduce the Tobacco content in Snus, which if this happens there will be added nicotine I would think, simply to give the potency of nicotine.

This would be bad long term, I'm hoping.

It's concerning that the future people may not have access to pure tobacco Snus (alkaloids lesson), if this happens, the average person that can't quit smoking with pharmaceutical nicotine, will not be able to quit with nicpods, or Snus without the full alkaloid spectrum.

I'm not try to be argumentive, I just worry that could be a future in the Snus industry.