Followup: Need Some Quick Opinons + Discreet snus

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  • RevMrBlack
    New Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2

    Followup: Need Some Quick Opinons + Discreet snus

    Well... yuck!

    I picked up a can each of the Pinkerton brands Longhorn, Timber Wolf, and Red Man, all the Fine Cut Natural variety. Across the board an emphatic thumbs down.

    Although it's been a decade since I dipped Copenhagen the flavor of these products brought back memories, mostly bad.

    I tried the Longhorn first and upon opening the can the aroma was instantly recognizable. I'm not sure if the recipe for Copenhagen changed in the twenty or so years that I used it or it was a physiological change in myself, but by the time I quit all I could really smell from a fresh can was ammonia. The smell of the Longhorn was more as I remember Copenhagen from my teens smelling. It did have a sort of chemical undertone but not as strong as Cope from my later years. I found the smokey sweet flavor to be overpowering and the only discernible tobacco flavor reminded me of latakia pipe tobacco which I'm not fond of.

    Next I tried the Red Man and I was surprised to find how mild it was compared to the Longhorn. It was more to my liking because of the lack of flavor rather than the quality of the flavor. The lack of aroma matches the lack of flavor.

    My perception of the Timber Wolf is that it falls between the Longhorn and Red Man as far as pungency of flavor and aroma.

    All three thoroughly reminded me why I never switched from Cope to a cheaper alternative. I remember thinking the bargain dips always had an "unnatural" characteristic in their taste. After using snus for a couple months I think the perception is magnified and they taste even more contrived.

    Until my next shipment arrives I think I will go back to the twist leaf chew and only use the dip for an extra kick when I need it. The mildly sweetened twist at least has an honest tobacco flavor.

    Along with the usual suspects in the smokeless tobacco section were several varieties of Discreet snus (that's the brand name) from American Smokeless Tobacco. They are little resealable plastic bags with 10 pieces of portion "snus". They were about a buck each so I picked out a packet of Full Flavor and one of Peach.

    I'm not sure exactly what flavor the Full Flavor is supposed to be full of but it's not a good one. Cheap tobacco and corn syrup maybe? The Peach did pack a punch of peachy flavor initially but it was akin to cough syrup. Thankfully the taste tapers off quickly with both varieties. The portions are tiny, 400 mg. ea., which is probably a good thing considering how foul they taste. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Stonewall tablets over this stuff.

    I must of been hooked on lozenges and gum when the Camel snus was available because I don't recall ever hearing of it. Now that I have experienced real snus I think it's a shame that these products which do not even remotely resemble their namesake are being marketed to the american public. It's like rolling cheap cigarette tobacco in a newspaper and calling it a cigar.
  • beezle
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 36

    #2
    yeah natural dip tastes like it came out of a horses ass hence when i dip its usually wintergreen or "straight" which is kinda like a sweet natural with a hint of wintergreen if i had the excess i'd send you a can but i only have like 2 cans of n&j and 1 of skruf stark left till i can make an order

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    • toekuttr
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 197

      #3
      I totally agree and never found anything other than Cope to taste really good. Practically every other flavor was on a level far lower than the price would indicate. I found the Redman FC to be a pretty decent tasting snuff though, but I hadn't had any Cope in quite a while when I recently tried it. My kingdom for a Copenhagen flavored snus. :P

      I've never seen these 'Discreet snus' you mention, are they actually a no-spit snus product, or just another version of pouched dip?

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      • Grim
        Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 850

        #4
        Really?

        I mean in no ways is dip likened to snus in any shape, fashion or form. ( well, maybe form )

        But Redman snuff to me is the best low price dip avalaible hands down.

        Now when it comes to Copenhagen, nothing compares, not even the best snus.

        But alas, anis flavorings is more popular in europe than just pure tobacco, i do not understand why people need to flavor tobacco to enjoy it.

        I started with flavored tobaccos and as soon as I tried reg tobacco flavor i came to the light.

        Flavorings to me just destroy true tobacco essence.

        But out of all dip tobacco ive tried, skoal is a joke, Copenhagen is the best, Redman is second, and all others just suck.

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        • Ainkor
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1144

          #5
          In a pinch, Cope is pretty good. I do get rather nerdy about it and take a bit and put it in a tea bag to make my own portions. If you leave some green tea leaves in the tea bag, it makes for a very interesting mix

          It has a very interesting flavor and it lasts a good while. My only issue with it is that it is very hard on my gums and cheek. If I did not have snus I would probably just use that, but rotate it around alot more that I do with snus in my mouth.

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