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  • harpdog
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 114

    #16
    Originally posted by bakerbarber
    sorry you misunderstood my statement.

    NOT in snus as if it was "added to the batch"

    it is a byproduct of the process.

    snus is regulated like food.

    if it is a byproduct why is this not documented anywhere. At least I can find no official documentation to state this fact.

    So if this is the case show me or point me to said documentation.

    The only mention of ammonia I can find is in American Tobacco. It is added to make nicotine more addictive.

    If this is the case with Snus it is more prevalent in Thunder snus than any other therefore V2 are behaving just like some of the more evil american tobacco companies.' and I will never use their products again.

    Would V2 care to comment on this?

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    • bakerbarber
      Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1947

      #17
      I'm going to need help here.

      Anyone?

      First let's take a deep breathe.

      It's noy only Thunder.

      Snus that is really fresh smells like ammonia sometimes. Snus that gets really old smells like ammonia sometimes.

      It doesn't mean they deliberately ramped up the "addictiveness" it's just the way it is. What's the best by date from your roll? I'm guessing it's real far out right?

      You got fresh snus, be happy.

      Sorry I don't have links to documentation. Snus, or tobacco in most any form, contains nicotine and is addictive. You bought one of the strongest kinds too.

      I seriously doubt anyone is in collusion to harm us. Especially not by intentionally having their product smell like piss.

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      • sagedil
        Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 7077

        #18
        There is a whloe thread about this on snuffhouse.org. Tobacco, whether it be snuff or snus has amonia that comes off it when it is newly processed. With snuff, just wait a bit, and it goes away. Common for folks to get freaked out about it when they first smell it in snuff.

        Found the thread. This should answer folks questions.

        http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/131...toque-natural/

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        • harpdog
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 114

          #19
          Originally posted by bakerbarber
          I'm going to need help here.

          Anyone?

          First let's take a deep breathe.

          It's noy only Thunder.

          Snus that is really fresh smells like ammonia sometimes. Snus that gets really old smells like ammonia sometimes.

          It doesn't mean they deliberately ramped up the "addictiveness" it's just the way it is. What's the best by date from your roll? I'm guessing it's real far out right?

          You got fresh snus, be happy.

          Sorry I don't have links to documentation. Snus, or tobacco in most any form, contains nicotine and is addictive. You bought one of the strongest kinds too.

          I seriously doubt anyone is in collusion to harm us. Especially not by intentionally having their product smell like piss.
          On the tins I received from northerner the first batch had on the tins I looked at use by dates of may 2009 so within 3 months. The thunder snus is dated use by 29/7/09 so within 5 months. It was refrigerated and half of the roll frozen on delivery. It took 4 days to arrive from Sweden.

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          • harpdog
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 114

            #20
            Originally posted by sagedil
            There is a whloe thread about this on snuffhouse.org. Tobacco, whether it be snuff or snus has amonia that comes off it when it is newly processed. With snuff, just wait a bit, and it goes away. Common for folks to get freaked out about it when they first smell it in snuff.

            Found the thread. This should answer folks questions.

            http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/131...toque-natural/
            In that thread there is only 1 post from a guy states that his snus also smells of ammonia, he could be guy like me.

            But with Snuff the guy at S Gawith implied to me that it is added to snuff not just a byproduct.

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            • Maximus
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 222

              #21
              I read it more that there is some ammonia vapors that come out in the process of manufacturing that dissapates. They did talk about the fact that American tobacco companies do add it to theirs but that there is some ammonia that comes out just in processing the leaves.

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              • harpdog
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 114

                #22
                Originally posted by bakerbarber
                I'm going to need help here.

                Anyone?

                First let's take a deep breathe.

                It's noy only Thunder.

                Snus that is really fresh smells like ammonia sometimes. Snus that gets really old smells like ammonia sometimes.

                It doesn't mean they deliberately ramped up the "addictiveness" it's just the way it is. What's the best by date from your roll? I'm guessing it's real far out right?

                You got fresh snus, be happy.

                Sorry I don't have links to documentation. Snus, or tobacco in most any form, contains nicotine and is addictive. You bought one of the strongest kinds too.

                I seriously doubt anyone is in collusion to harm us. Especially not by intentionally having their product smell like piss.

                As I said no other snus I tried smelled like this, apart from a tin of gerneral portion that I left out of the fridge for over a week and it got old.

                However thunder snus is the only really strong snus I have used so if this is normal with strong snus then why does not montecristo which is 11mg smell as bad, infact I can not smell any ammonia in it all.

                I guess If I order general extra sterk and the new oden I can compare.

                So using smelly snus will make your breath smell like piss. That will attract the ladies.

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                • Jason
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1370

                  #23
                  I remember the heavy ammonia smell in General when I first started using snus....I can honestly say that I have not been able to detect it since. I'm sure it's still there, but I guess I'm just used to it....

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                  • Xobeloot
                    Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2542

                    #24
                    Likewise. I don't notice it anymore.

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                    • harpdog
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 114

                      #25
                      I can't believe it. I opened a new can of thunder loose. It smelled ok. So totest this i left the lid off for 30 mins and then the ammonia smell came out.

                      I have not put this one back in the fridge and each day the ammonia smell gets stronger and stronger and never clears.

                      So today I was on the tube (underground train for those that dont know London) coming home from a job. I needed some snus so opened the thunder put it on my knee opened whilst I got my icetool from my pocket and the stench of the ammonia was strong enough to be overpowering even from where it sat on my knee.

                      This cant be right.

                      I admit its the only extra sterk snus I have. But 8 other brands I have used never smelt like this apart from one older can of gerneral portion that I forgot to put in the fridge and then it was not as overpowering as thunder.

                      despite those that say this is problem is a natural bi-product it does not seem right to me. So will no longer purchase this crap.

                      If anyone wants the 5 cans I have in the freezer they are welcome to them.

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                      • Xobeloot
                        Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2542

                        #26
                        I dont see how yours would stink so badly. I have had one can open for over a week now and it still smells the same as day one.

                        Anyways, if you are offering to unload it, I will happily take it off your hands.

                        Do you use Paypal? I'll shoot you $10 to cover shipping.

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                        • harpdog
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 114

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Xobeloot
                          I dont see how yours would stink so badly. I have had one can open for over a week now and it still smells the same as day one.

                          Anyways, if you are offering to unload it, I will happily take it off your hands.

                          Do you use Paypal? I'll shoot you $10 to cover shipping.
                          Hi, my paypal email is bluesharmonica at me dot com it is also in my profile on here.

                          If you send me your address I can pack them up and send them off. Just a thought is it best to defrost them prior to packing them before shipping them to avoid condensation. They are currently in ziplock bags and the air sucked out and in the freezer so condensation may not be a problem i dont think. $10 should cover a reasonably fast shipping from London.

                          I would also appreciate if you could let me know if you have the same experience with them as I did or not as the case maybe.

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                          • Mr. Snuffleupagus
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2781

                            #28
                            Mine smells like urine after three days. Makes my hand smell like poo from baking. Tastes like nothing tho. I still like it and have not crapped my pants.

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                            • bakerbarber
                              Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1947

                              #29
                              epic

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                              • Xobeloot
                                Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 2542

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                                Mine smells like urine after three days. Makes my hand smell like poo from baking. Tastes like nothing tho. I still like it and have not crapped my pants.
                                WIN!

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