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  • snupy
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 575

    #16
    Originally posted by Maxpower05080
    Hey if you like Halfzwares like bali light, you might really like the geneal portions. They have that nice tobacco flavor, similar to a halfzware.
    I LOVE Bali Shag light, but only for mood smoking. I could not smoke it all day long. Well, I could, but it left my lungs and throat feeling like a sewer. Now Penhooker light, I could smoke that all day long, especially if blended with the Ramback. If only I could get THAT as an IV drip!

    I am sure I will play around with the general portions at some point, and most likely will on my next order. I am also planning to up the nic level of my e-liquids, probably to 8 mg anyway. I run the batteries down quickly at lower nic levels. At higher levels, I am sure I could hit it once or twice and be satisfied.

    I am having to rework the whole quit smoking thing. I originally thought e-smoking would be the ONE TRUE(tm) WAY. Adding snus into the mix opens up a world of possibilities. It will be interesting to see how I end up working the two methods together.

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    • sagedil
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 7077

      #17
      Originally posted by snupy
      I did Atkins induction for 4 months instead of two weeks, while taking up weight lifting and speed-walking on alternate days last year. I indulge in sugar occasionally, but finally had to add in a massive amount of carbs and am still finding it difficult to gain muscle mass.
      LOL, we do have much in common. Six years ago, I just stayed at induction, under 20 grams of carbs the entire time. This time around, I am similar, but a tad less obsessive about the carb count. What I have learned through all of this is that the real issue is just keeping my calorie count down. Atkins helps, cause eating just protein and fat is satiating, but I mostly just try to stay at about 1500 - 1600 calories a day. This go around has been much slower, but it still keeps heading in the right direction.

      I will be back at the gym soon as soon as my motorcycle is fixed. I wanted to do the weight loss by food only. I am not interested in building much muscle mass, but just want what I have to be defined. And when I finish losing my belly, I WILL have abs. :lol: :lol:


      Now, let me give you the same advice about snus and quitting smoking I give everyone else. Stop worrying about it. Use the snus, smoke when you want. Over about a month or two, you will simply find you are using snus more and smoking less. then one day, you will simply forget to buy any more cigarettes. I never intended to stop smoking when I switched to snus. it just happened. My body quickly came to prefer that method of getting it's nicotine fix

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      • snupy
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 575

        #18
        Originally posted by sagedil
        I mostly just try to stay at about 1500 - 1600 calories a day.
        A formula I found on the internet, to be used by those with less than 18% body fat, showed I would need to eat between 3200-3400 calories a day in order to gain. I still don't know if I am getting that many per day, but I have consumed 6 pounds of pasta the past 3 weeks.

        Originally posted by sagedil
        I am not interested in building much muscle mass, but just want what I have to be defined.
        For me it is more of an experiment really. Losing is easy, but the gaining is hard. It is also somewhat of an oddity to be at middle age and have my body in the shape it is in. You know what I mean when I say that, given that you also live in NC.

        Originally posted by sagedil
        And when I finish losing my belly, I WILL have abs. :lol: :lol:
        UGH! Don't even get me started on abs. I do, at a minimum of 4200 crunches a month, but never more than 5,250 crunches a month, but still no abs.

        Originally posted by sagedil
        Now, let me give you the same advice about snus and quitting smoking I give everyone else. Stop worrying about it. Use the snus, smoke when you want.
        I can't do that. I REFUSE to pay the EXTORTED prices for cigarettes that our nanny state government have made the norm. Screw the government. They won't get so much as one more dime in revenue from me due to nicotine.

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        • Mr. Snuffleupagus
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 2781

          #19
          I also found snus after spending alot of time and money with e-cigs. I was able to sell all my e-cig stuff. I also buzzed off camel snus at first and I was a very heavy smoker. My first order looked very much like yours. Don't be surpirsed if you stop getting the buzz from the minis and start moving up to regulars and sterks after you get used to the delivery system.

          Welcome!

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          • nusnuser
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 20

            #20
            As a former dipper. It's been a difficult adjustment. I'm finally over the need to feel like i have to work some juice out of it and spit. It's best to just sit and let it ride. The best deal I've found and recommend is on premiumsnus.com. It's a great sampler.

            http://www.premiumsnus.com/try-out-s...kit-p-136.html

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            • deebocools
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 661

              #21
              hey friend, don't beat yourself up about not finding out about snus earlier. In the grand scheme of things, you will have still found out about it earlier than most people(since most people don't know about it yet).

              I also congratulate you for being, in general, a proactive individual. Most people only think about what they're going to do long after the problem arises. It took my father about 10 cig price raises before he even switched to a cheaper brand.

              so you're on top of it with cutting back, rolling your own, e-cigging, then snusing. Your snusing ought to be safe for quite a while(buy alot just in case, and don't up your consumption needlessly). You are well ahead of the "curve" is what I'm saying and obviously a curious, crafty individual like everyone here.

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              • snupy
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 575

                #22
                Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                I also found snus after spending alot of time and money with e-cigs. I was able to sell all my e-cig stuff.
                I couldn't imagine selling my e-cigs. I do like them and still use them, particularly since I have 24 mg tasteless which can be mixed down to any flavor and strength. It does satisfy that hand to mouth psychological aspect of smoking for me. Additionally, it is SO CLEAN as far as taste as compared to cigarettes.

                Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                Don't be surpirsed if you stop getting the buzz from the minis and start moving up to regulars and sterks after you get used to the delivery system.
                I hope I don't. It's not the buzz so much I am after, as the quickening of the mind, as is the case with caffeine. I also have ALWAYS done much better with lower nic levels.

                Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                Welcome!
                Thanky!

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                • snupy
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 575

                  #23
                  Originally posted by deebocools
                  Most people only think about what they're going to do long after the problem arises.
                  Originally, I had planned to order 20 pounds of tobacco prior to the new government extortion that went into effect on 4/1. Fortunately, I bumped into e-smoking before I placed that order.

                  Originally posted by deebocools
                  don't up your consumption needlessly
                  I won't. If I want a buzz, tobacco is not the plant I would choose. I do choose tobacco for the quickening of the mind, not the buzz.

                  Originally posted by deebocools
                  You are well ahead of the "curve" is what I'm saying and obviously a curious, crafty individual like everyone here.
                  Aside from the ease of use, as well as lack of maintenance of snus, the fact I can order it TAX-FREE and keep the government the F$%K out of my business, it just icing on the cake.

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                  • sgreger1
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #24
                    Re: New Snuser

                    Originally posted by snupy
                    I feel like an idiot. I had decided to quit smoking because I absolutely REFUSE to pay the new tobacco taxes. (How in the world can we justify a $12 per lb bag of tobacco all of a sudden costing $43? Wave bye-bye to the free market.) Given my resolve to NOT allow my government to extort cash from me unnecessarily, I turned to electronic cigarettes. I am VERY pleased with this change, particularly given the considerably lower cost of producing one's own e-liquid. (MMMMMMM! Kahlua!)

                    However, I now feel a bit like an idiot, given my prior ignorance of snus. I had NO CLUE WHATSOEVER snus even existed, until seeing it mentioned on the electronic cigarette forums. I since have purchased 1 tin each of the Camel snus, both the mellow and frost. It IS almost sickeningly sweet, which I do find disturbing. WIthout going into too much detail, I have taken exceptional control over my diet this past year and particularly with respect to junk carbs (and the results have certainly been worth it). As a result, I have no desire whatsoever to imbibe sugar, which is the absolute junkiest of junk carbs, in my tobacco.

                    Having lurked a bit on these forums in an attempt to educate myself regarding snus, I placed my first order today. I couldn't seriously consider ordering those try-out mixes, given the Camel snus at 8 mg per portion has had me buzzing my balls off. As a former ultralight smoker, I knew I needed a much lower nicotine content, even as I have been mixing my kahlua e-liquids in anywhere from a 2- 4.8 mg strength.

                    So, here is what I ordered:

                    Catch Collection Mini Mint Vanilla
                    Catch Licorice Mini Portion
                    CatchDry White Eucalyptus
                    CatchDry White Licorice Portion
                    General Mini Portion
                    General Mini White Portion
                    Göteborgs Rapé Mini White Portion
                    Mocca Anis Mini Portion
                    Mocca Mint Mini Portion
                    Mocca Pomegranate
                    Tre Ankare Mini Portion

                    All of the above contain either 4 or 5 mg of nicotine per portion, which should be low enough for me. Given I am only using two portions per day, the above cans will provide enough snus for 110 days, all for only $45 and some change, including shipping!

                    I fear I may have wasted money on the electronic cigarettes. For some reason, the snus is more satisfying, although perhaps that means I need to mix my e-liquids at higher concentrations. In any event, I am very happy to have discovered snus and CAN NOT FRIGGIN WAIT to taste the REAL thing direct from Sweden. The licorice, eucalyptus and most especially the pomegranate, are the ones that excite me the most, although the exotically named, such as the Göteborgs Rapé and Ankare have most certainly piqued my interest as well.

                    Dude your a perfect candidate for snus, I also dont like super high nicotene or sweet shit, stay away from flavored snus like the Mocca Pomegranite, it tastes like Bazookah joe, stick with things like Gotland Rape or Ettan, it has no sugary taste and is more of a salty tobaccoi taste, which i prefer over excessive amounts of sugar and flavoring.

                    good order though.

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nusnuser
                      As a former dipper. It's been a difficult adjustment. I'm finally over the need to feel like i have to work some juice out of it and spit. It's best to just sit and let it ride. The best deal I've found and recommend is on premiumsnus.com. It's a great sampler.

                      http://www.premiumsnus.com/try-out-s...kit-p-136.html

                      lol, yah im an ex dipper also and I try to dqueeze the juice out of it sometimes lol, and when i use LOS I end up ****ing with ti with my tongue which I shouldnt be doing.

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                      • snupy
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 575

                        #26
                        Re: New Snuser

                        Originally posted by sgreger1
                        stay away from flavored snus like the Mocca Pomegranite,
                        I may well end up doing that, but presently, my mouth is literally watering just thinking about a pomegranate flavored snus.

                        Originally posted by sgreger1
                        stick with things like Gotland Rape
                        I have goat rape on order as well.

                        Originally posted by sgreger1
                        good order though.
                        I sent the list to my sis and now she wants to order some as well. She is as equally as pissed off about the new government extortion scheme as I am, although I think she will do better with general portions given she smokes lights.

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                        • Maxpower05080
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 185

                          #27
                          yeah the flavored ones are just too much, espcially if you enjoy the flavor of actual tobacco. go with the general mini portion first! I have a gen regular in right now...nothing quite beats it!

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                          • deebocools
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 661

                            #28
                            dude, if you have to rape goats to satisfy your cravings, then go back to cigs.

                            sorry.

                            not really

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                            • snupy
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 575

                              #29
                              Originally posted by deebocools
                              dude, if you have to rape goats to satisfy your cravings, then go back to cigs.
                              I won't know until I actually receive my order and can try the goat rape for myself. So you are here in NC as well?

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                              • deebocools
                                Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 661

                                #30
                                I live in winston-salem now(how relevant), but I'm a drifter

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