FDA Bill Effects on American Tobacco

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  • sagedil
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 7077

    #16
    Just depends on store. I have seen prices anywhere from $3 - $6 a can.

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    • TheOneandOnly
      Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 616

      #17
      General around me in New York costs from around $3-$6 a can.. however it's rare to find one that is not very close to expiration, so I just order from Northerner

      A few questions, this new bill bans flavored tobacco sales. Does that mean things like Skoal ' Apple ' or ' Peach ' will be banned? I'm not a dipper but im still curious about the whole situation.

      With the new PACT Act, I checked it out on Google and it only specified that Tax must be paid on ALL tobacco products through mail. Does anyone know how much? And does it apply to imports from Sweden?

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      • sagedil
        Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 7077

        #18
        Welcome to Snuson TheOneandOnly

        As for your first question. honestly, no one really knows. The bill states what the FDA may do, not what they will do.

        as for the PACT act, it would actually bad]n the sending of tobacco through the mail. That is the biggest part. We don't know how it will shake out. It doesn't stop shipping via private carrier (UPS< FedEx). But some reports I have read have stated the private carriers have "agreed" not to ship tobacco either.


        We really don't know what is coming, why folks around here are far more stressed out about life than normal.

        Stick around, we will figure out what is happening as it does, and share any ideas to deal with it as we need to.

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        • amorican
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 106

          #19
          I'm really concerned about this PACT bill... I would probably quit snus if it passes, but that's not something I want to do. I don't understand the need for government to step into our lives in this way. What I want to do to my body, all drugs included, is my business as far as I'm concerned. Hell, if I want to stick a needle full of heroin into my arm (I don't), it should be my business and my choice.

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          • HK11
            Member
            • May 2009
            • 631

            #20
            I love Ron Paul.

            "My objections to the bill are not an endorsement of tobacco. As a physician I understand the adverse health effects of this bad habit. And that is exactly how smoking should be treated — as a bad habit and a personal choice. The way to combat poor choices is through education and information. Other than ensuring that tobacco companies do not engage in force or fraud to market their products, the federal government needs to stay out of the health habits of free people. Regulations for children should be at the state level. Unfortunately, government is using its already overly intrusive financial and regulatory roles in healthcare to establish a justifiable interest in intervening in your personal lifestyle choices as well. We all need to anticipate the level of health freedom that will remain once government manages all health care in this country."

            From campaign for liberty - June 16

            Also, I'm sure a lot of you caught this story on the drudge about how CBS is helping the government brainwash people into thinking nationalized healthcare is good by running "Prescription for America" from the whitehouse and EXCLUDING opposing points of view. State run televison anyone?

            http://drudgereport.com/flashaot.htm

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            • dEFinitionofEPIC
              Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 146

              #21
              Ron Paul is definitely the man.

              Unfortunately we will never have him as our president because people are too stupid to vote for anyone the media is not shoving down their throat....

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              • Soft Morning, City!
                Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 772

                #22
                Ah, Ron Paul. Such a logical viewpoint. It's no wonder he'll never be elected to office.

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
                  Ah, Ron Paul. Such a logical viewpoint. It's no wonder he'll never be elected to office.
                  Well aren't we cynical today :^D

                  I agree with you though. Anyone that shows signs of having their own opinion, and doing anything that departs from the status quo is doomed in politics :^(

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                  • digitalerik
                    Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 126

                    #24
                    nic levels

                    Its written in the bill that they can't remove the nicotine all together.

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                    • HK11
                      Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 631

                      #25
                      Re: nic levels

                      Originally posted by digitalerik
                      Its written in the bill that they can't remove the nicotine all together.
                      But they can remove the fun.. Sorry! Im drunk :P

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                      • Soft Morning, City!
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 772

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lxskllr
                        Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
                        Ah, Ron Paul. Such a logical viewpoint. It's no wonder he'll never be elected to office.
                        Well aren't we cynical today :^D

                        I agree with you though. Anyone that shows signs of having their own opinion, and doing anything that departs from the status quo is doomed in politics :^(
                        It's sad, really. Every time I heard Ron Paul speak during the time leading up to the last election, his points made sense to me. I was taken aback by his logical approaches to the myriad issues. But every time I watched him in one of the debates, he was laughed at and ridiculed while the other idiots talked out of their asses to wild applause. Sickening.

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                        • chadizzy1
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 7432

                          #27
                          I found this pic on my website shell and had to share it, dunno why I never posted it. I made it around the time there was paranoia that the FDA would make us say "Dey tuk our snuuuuusssss!"



                          (Thats Commissioner Lester M. Crawford, new head of the FDA)

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                          • sagedil
                            Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 7077

                            #28
                            Bite me for resurrecting a thread I didn't want to see again.

                            Really worth it???? :wink:

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                            • chadizzy1
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 7432

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sagedil
                              Bite me for resurrecting a thread I didn't want to see again.

                              Really worth it???? :wink:
                              Didn't want to start a new one just to share a pic, so I found an old one. I was hoping people would see the pic, and have a chuckle. If it turns into anything ugly I'm sure we can get it locked

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                              • sagedil
                                Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 7077

                                #30
                                It's not that I worry what folks will say, I trust people here now, that is NOT my issue.

                                I just don't want to read the freakin thread tittle again. I just don't want to talk about such issues here, think about such issues here, I am violently protective about the sand over my head :wink:

                                And no, your picture wasn't worth me seeing the thread tittle again. :twisted:

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