PACT Act [peaceful discussion, please.]

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  • chadizzy1
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 7432

    PACT Act [peaceful discussion, please.]

    H.R. 1676, The PACT Act

    Points Against

    Honest, law-abiding online tobacco companies would suffer financially, and many people would be out of work. This would hurt the Native Americans and Swedish Snus companies who make a living selling tobacco products.

    The PACT Act can cause a black market to form and there would be little to no quality-control on these products, meaning in addition to the taxes lost to the government, there will be more people in need of treatment for cancer and other tobacco related diseases. People will also start growing their own tobacco and making smokes or smokeless tobacco at home, undetected and depriving the government of taxes.

    The PACT Act allows the online sale and mailing of cigars. Anyone, including possibly someone under-aged, would be able to buy the cigars without paying any taxes, then shred and flavor them, start chewing them instead of the dip or chewing tobacco, or worse, even sell them on the black market disguised as a different product.

    Cigarettes, chew tobacco, snus, and dip could even be put in plastic and wrapped in cigar wrap leaves, then sent in the mail labeled as cigars. That will not help the sales or tax problem either.

    A better approach would be to mandate tax-payment by the recipient of the tobacco order at the post office or house where the tobacco is delivered. This way, the Government would still get its taxes and the organizations that these taxes fund will not lose any money.

    (Log in to edit the wiki and be the first to show why the bill should not pass!)

    ....really? these are the people we put in office?
  • sagedil
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 7077

    #2
    Give it a rest finally. Please. Let me happily enjoy my snus in peace. Change comes, I will adjust as I have to. But not a damn thing any of us can do about it.

    So just let it go.

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    • chadizzy1
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 7432

      #3
      oh i'm not trying to bring it up or start a panic.
      i just thought it was funny that they mentioned wrapping snus in cigar leaves or whatever. it made me lol.

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      • simon
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 127

        #4
        How about looking at it half full..
        If they can't ship it to you, the only way to reach customers is retail stores, maybe it will force the manufacturers to put them on the shelves.

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        • chadizzy1
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 7432

          #5
          i'm not worrid about this at all. we've all panicked about it, i don't want to cause another stir.

          the only thing i wanted to bring up was that two little line section about snus. haha.

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          • sagedil
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 7077

            #6
            Completely agree simon. And know that Swedish Match is already preparing for just that situation. IF it comes to pass.

            Chad, I just don't want to see more threads talking about it. We beat the subject to death already. Since we have NO power to influence what comes, I just don't want to read about it here.

            And I get zero humor out of the subject, just find nothing funny about any of it.

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            • chadizzy1
              Member
              • May 2009
              • 7432

              #7
              we did kinda wear it out for about a month there, didn't we?

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              • sagedil
                Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 7077

                #8
                Please just let us keep enjoying our snus with our heads in the sand. It really is pleasant here. Throw some Thunder Frosted in and come join us. :wink:

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                • chadizzy1
                  Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 7432

                  #9
                  *puts in thunder frosted and returns head to sand*

                  okaayyy.....

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                  • dupee419
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 398

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chadizzy1
                    we did kinda wear it out for about a month there, didn't we?
                    Me thinks the man is right.

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                    • dupee419
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 398

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chadizzy1
                      *puts in thunder frosted and returns head to sand*

                      okaayyy.....
                      LOL!!!

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                      • sagedil
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 7077

                        #12
                        I know how to calm him down. :wink:

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                        • dupee419
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 398

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sagedil
                          I know how to calm him down. :wink:
                          got some room over there in the sand for one more, minus the thunder? I'll bring pineapples and coconuts. 8)

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                          • justintempler
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3090

                            #14
                            I ran across them before somewhere...

                            ATF has a set of rules on how to classify tobacco so your loopholes won't work or only long enough until they change the rules to close them.

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                            • SnusoMatic
                              Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 507

                              #15
                              i know everyone is tried of it and so am i BUT haha. i am going on record to say it won't pass. i wont go into all the how comes but i am an older man who works from home. all i do is work and hear the tv news all the time. as long as they hurry up and vote on this i dont think it will pass. its not because it's good or bad, right or wrong. it's the political climate right now. so have your thunder frosted, i have some right here and i will have mine. right this second it's nic and johnny. what a name for a snus sheeee

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