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  • Ulsterman

    Nicotine in los

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  • Big L
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 151

    #2
    Re: Nicotine in los

    Originally posted by Ulsterman
    I've got to share this as it's a bit of an epiphany for me.

    I'm lossing with Phantom Classic Brown los and I cannot believe how good this stuff is in relation to portions.

    First of all the taste is subtle, you still get the lovely taste of tobacco but it's not as in your face as portions, which is really a good thing.

    Now, the nicotine delivery is stunning. The mellowness is gobsmacking.
    On yesterdays night shift I was portioning all night and then decided to throw up a los. I sat down in the chair on the internet and within half an hour I was asleep and lucid dreaming. I can never sleep on a night shift.
    I've got one in now and I'm so chilled I can't get up.
    With portions the nicotine hit is like an alert feeling whilst los is very soporiphic, deep and almost psychoactive.

    As you can see, I'm pretty impressed and can see me lossing much more than portions which is strange as I hated los when I first tried it.
    I'm just surprised by the huge difference in nicotine delivery and the effects of.
    I am having a similar los experience, agree with you 100 percent. I still like the portions for convenience, but damn los is tasty. I've using General original and Offroad wintergreen los a lot lately and enjoying it. Plus I like the ritual of handbaking, kind of like grabbing a pinch of dip only much better

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    • sagedil
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 7077

      #3
      Glad it is working for you Ulsterman

      Some time in the next few months, I will try los again for the 3rd time. Last time was Icetool, this go, I will be handbaking only

      We shall see....

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        What I have done recently, that seems to be working well, since I haven't been using Los much, is I took an empty can, an Ettan Original Portion in my case, and have a can of Roda Lacket Los, I had baked about 6 pris, kinda similar in shape to US Camel portions, long thin maybe an 1/8in thick, rectangles, and put them in the empty can. I find it easy to have them ready. The hard part is getting it in without it breaking, but I just now did one, and it worked fine.

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        • Mr. Snuffleupagus
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 2781

          #5
          Check out this thread along the same lines:
          http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=4756

          Hi guys,
          I actually turned to professor Lars Erik Rutqvist our Vice President of Scientific Affairs (also my office neigbour) for this one.

          "It is correct that a consumer typically extracts more nicotine from loose snus compared to the same product in pouches. In this context it is important to understand that the proportion of nicotine extracted from all snus products is relatively low, typically only c. 20%, and varies considerably between individuals. The exact mechanisms behind these phenomena are not fully known. Part of the explanation is probably how individual consumers manipulate the snus in their mouth, and that the pouch material to some extent prevents contact between the snus, the saliva, and the oral mucosa."

          From personal experience I also get more of a "kick" from loose.

          BR,
          Joakim
          Anyways, I agree they are different.

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          • Ulsterman

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            • sagedil
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              • Nov 2007
              • 7077

              #7
              How big is the pris you are making?? I suspect that is really what you are feeling. If it is twice the size of a portion, you are getting twice the nicotine.

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              • Ulsterman

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                • Mr. Snuffleupagus
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2781

                  #9
                  More mystery:

                  http://ntr.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ntp118v1

                  Andersson et al. reported no difference in the 24-hr systemic dose of nicotine and metabolites (as measured by urinary excretion) or in the saliva cotinine levels of loose and pouched snus users. In contrast, in the same study, Andersson et al. reported that loose snus users extracted twice as much nicotine from loose than from pouched snus. Andersson et al. explained the discrepancy between the amount extracted and the actual uptake of nicotine by suggesting that loose users spit or swallow much more saliva than users of portion-bag snus. Clearly, further work is required to understand the extractability and bioavailability of nicotine from different snus styles.

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                  • Ulsterman

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                    • TheOneandOnly
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 616

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ulsterman
                      because nicotine is psychoactive. What I meant was it is much much more psychoactive.

                      If it was psychoactive, it would be illegal.. Like Cocaine and Meth.

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                      • MojoQuestor
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2344

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheOneandOnly
                        Originally posted by Ulsterman
                        because nicotine is psychoactive. What I meant was it is much much more psychoactive.

                        If it was psychoactive, it would be illegal.. Like Cocaine and Meth.
                        According to Google, it is psychoactive.

                        Is Nicotine a Psychoactive Drug?

                        Yes, Nictoine is a psychoactive drug. A psychoactive drug or psychotropic substance is a chemical substance that acts primarily upon the central nervous system where it alters brain function, resulting in temporary changes in perception, mood, consciousness and behavior. These drugs may be used recreationally to purposefully alter one's consciousness.

                        http://faq.testcountry.com/IS_NICOTI...DRUG_/1148.htm


                        Nicotine is a psychoactive drug that has a stimulating impact on the electrical activity of the brain.

                        http://smoking.ygoy.com/addiction-to-smoking/

                        edit edit: probably not relevant

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                        • CM
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                          • Apr 2009
                          • 329

                          #13
                          The Skruf lös nic hit. :roll: 8)

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