Los with a less 'mud like' texture?

[Kvlt]

Skruf Stark Los is the only Los I have tried, and I couldn't get it to work. Flavor was "smoother", but not enough of a difference to justify me using it over convienient white portions.

[Snusdog]

Word. I never did get much flavor out of the damn thing until it started a more massive slide and I tongued it. After about 5 minutes I got tired of all the work and spit it out and put in a portion. I'll keep trying and hopefully by the time I bottom out this RL I will know wtf I'm doing and can enjoy my Skruf Stark Los which should be waiting for me in my mailbox this evening.

Laz,

Something does not seem right here. A tight pris of Roda can easily last 2 hours. Flavor- yea not much- that is normal. But all this sliding you have got going on ain't right.

First, it might be that Roda is just the wrong brand for you at this time. Try the Skruf and any others that you have got coming. Find one that works for you and perfect your technique with that one. No use hiking up Everest in boots that blister your feet.

Also, how far back in your mouth are you putting the pris. The further back the more saliva and thus the more likely a slide? Back is often more comfortable at first and more discrete at first (and thus a tempting trap). Try moving it up closer to the front. The Swedes put it in the very front but that is not necessary. Anyway see if that helps.

The good news is that it is beginning to sound like a simple problem and a matter of a simple adjustment- now it is just a matter of finding what that is.

Keep us posted

[LaZeR]

Laz,

Something does not seem right here. A tight pris of Roda can easily last 2 hours. Flavor- yea not much- that is normal. But all this sliding you have got going on ain't right.
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Keep us posted

Thanks. I guess I gotta hang in there and get this right enough to finish out all this los I ended up with. Just realized my "General 4pk" from Getsnus a couple orders back has a can of Grov Los init. I just got my latest order of the Skruf Stark Los & my mystery can was a General Los and I still have 1/2 a can of this friggin RL left.

I popped in another pris whilst taking a shower tonight and the damn thing mudslided on me in 1/2 hour. WTF, got lotsa flavor right then as I was picking it out of my teeth and 'spittin' like a crak whor.

I'm placing it right to the left of center pretty much over the 2nd/3rd teeth to that side and up tight to the top of the gum. I think I keep ****ing with it by squeezing in on my lip trying to get some flavor because it just doesn't seem right to have something in my mouth over 30 minutes that has no taste whatsoever.

I will keep practicing.

[Snusdog]

Laz,

Something does not seem right here. A tight pris of Roda can easily last 2 hours. Flavor- yea not much- that is normal. But all this sliding you have got going on ain't right.
....
Keep us posted

Thanks. I guess I gotta hang in there and get this right enough to finish out all this los I ended up with. Just realized my "General 4pk" from Getsnus a couple orders back has a can of Grov Los init. I just got my latest order of the Skruf Stark Los & my mystery can was a General Los and I still have 1/2 a can of this friggin RL left.

I popped in another pris whilst taking a shower tonight and the damn thing mudslided on me in 1/2 hour. WTF, got lotsa flavor right then as I was picking it out of my teeth and 'spittin' like a crak whor.

I'm placing it right to the left of center pretty much over the 2nd/3rd teeth to that side and up tight to the top of the gum. I think I keep ****ing with it by squeezing in on my lip trying to get some flavor because it just doesn't seem right to have something in my mouth over 30 minutes that has no taste whatsoever.

I will keep practicing.

No wories about the shower. Showers are hard to do. Lower lip it in the shower.

Give the Grov and the General a try but both are milder. Skruf might be your best bet of the lot. If one does not work for you seal it up real good (plastic wrap and a zip lock) and put it in the freezer. It will keep just fine. You can go back to it. No reason to get discouraged b/c of a wrong brand.

[Kvlt]

Tell me, if I were to use a syringe or icetool, does it stay together for at least an hour, or does it have the same issues as baking by hand?

I want to like los, you get 45 grams for the price of 24, but it just seems like such a pain in the ass.

[tom502]

Mine always stayed in over an hour.

[lxskllr]

Tell me, if I were to use a syringe or icetool, does it stay together for at least an hour, or does it have the same issues as baking by hand?

I want to like los, you get 45 grams for the price of 24, but it just seems like such a pain in the ass.

I'd say it's /more likely/ to stay together, but a proper handbake will work also. If you want to try an IceTool like device before investing money, get a 3ml syringe from the drug store. It costs about 25¢, and with an easy modification makes a usable poor man's IceTool.

[LaZeR]

Give the Grov and the General a try but both are milder. Skruf might be your best bet of the lot. If one does not work for you seal it up real good (plastic wrap and a zip lock) and put it in the freezer. It will keep just fine. You can go back to it. No reason to get discouraged b/c of a wrong brand.

Would the Grov and General be even milder than the RL? I can't imagine anything having any less flavor at this stage in my los'n unless you mean just the nic hit?

Unfortunately or fortunately - not sure which - I mistakenly left my RL los at home in the fridge so won't be able to 'practice' any at work today and my girl is off this weekend so might be a few days until I can revisit.

Will keep you posted.

... get a 3ml syringe from the drug store. It costs about 25¢, and with an easy modification makes a usable poor man's IceTool.

Ok you have my attention. What exactly is the 'modification' :?:

[tom502]

Just take a serated knife and cut/saw the tip off. There is a thread here somewhere with pics.

[LaZeR]

Just take a serated knife and cut/saw the tip off. There is a thread here somewhere with pics.

Thanks and *doh* to me. Why didn't I just search.... ops:

http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?...hlight=syringe

i tried to make one with a syringe. it didnt work, the pris would always split into two pieces when i took it out, plus you cant make it that tight (maybe im making it too tight, i dont know) so what i did was to take a 3 ml syringe, cut off about 1/2 inch from the tip so the little tip and some of the syringe were gone.

then i took off the rubber things at the end of the "handle" for 2 syringes, and used two handles, one on each side, to compress the snus.

then i take one handle out and push the pris out with the other handle, when it falls in my hand, i pick it up and pack it in.

here are pictures of the components. this device does not work perfectly, as i said, the pris always splits in 2 if you mishandle it. im currently working on removing this flaw. i can post more pictures of the later incarnations of the device later when i smooth out all the kinks if you guys want. notice that each handle's little thingy that holds the rubber thing has been cut off so it can slid in smoothly, and so that it is no longer air/liquid-proof. this does have the disadvantage of making the handles very messy after you make a pris, but im working on that too. (clicky for full size)






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[tom502]

Now I just cut the end off, stick it in the los, till you get the amount you want, then have the open end on my palm or finger, and push the plunger down enough to firm it, not too much, then stick the open end, angled in to the mouth, where you want it, and then push it in, and it should come out fine, like a mini Tootsie Roll, horizontal, and maybe position it some. It might seem a bit hard, but it softens up in time.

[daruckis]

Would the Grov and General be even milder than the RL? I can't imagine anything having any less flavor at this stage in my los'n unless you mean just the nic hit?

i find general to be pretty flavorful. i mean, especially if youre coming off using roda los.

i really want to be a pro handbaker like everybody else, but i cant do it. when compared to an icetool made pris, its never as big, as tight, mudslide in like 10 minutes, and i end up wasting a pris spitting it out early. which is a big deal with every 5 dollar pris of kardus. theres really no reason for me to not use my icetool all day every day. i love it.

[LaZeR]

Here I am with yet another attempt at Roda Lacket los. Put one in my usual time whilst back at home and away from the fiance while taking a shower. Damn thing started spreading and drifting into a couple slow but steady mudslides. Poking my tongue at it and/or pushing back up with my finger only seems to makes matters worse. So I said **** it and just grabbed a "spitter" from my old cope dippin days (Oh the memories.... :roll: ).

Now I'm digging the flavor as I'm really getting it now finally albeit with my top teeth coated with black mud and my uppers loaded with the crap in, around, and under. Spitting like a French whore on a Friday night but I give up. This is how I will do los for now and just use a spitter so I'm not swallowing gobs of mud. The flavor is finally really shining. I'm getting a nice burn and noticeable nic hit. Just a shame I suck so bad at keeping this from becoming so messy. :?

[LaZeR]

So tonight with spitter bottle at hand, I baked a rather large pris and this time decided to place it pretty much directly up front top -center-. My damn lip is so stretched out, it almost hurts but I'm happy to say after 1 hour in, I am still not getting any mudslide and in fact have yet to use the spitter. I even got thirsty and for the first time ever, took a sip of pepsi from a straw whilst los'ing with no adverse effects.

I think I am finally onto something with the placement dead center so now I'm looking forward to grabbing up a 3ml syringe and dev.ing a homemade icetool knockoff. :?: - what are the equivalent measurements (say in inches) for marking the clicks?