Originally posted by tom502
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I dunno, maybe that connection exists, but they don't want to make that news public? I've heard it from a few people, and I'm waiting on some pictures to come across and confirm. Maybe Adrian could come in and explain? -
Well, my local Speedway gas stations sell, or sold, Tourney, haven't been in one in a while. I'll check next time I'm around one, though they are a little out of my way.Comment
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My review
This was one that I've been really hesitant to review. For a few reasons. The return of the hockey puck snus can, which universally signifies bad snus. I can understand Gajane/GN Tobacco buying a factory and having a bazillion of these sitting around and wanting to use them, but I'm hoping that after they're gone they come out with something good looking like the cool design on Oden's. Something similar in a Viking-esque fashion. The other reason being that this snus is fermented, and that just doesn't appeal to me. All the Swedish Snus I love is pasteurized, and everytime I hear "fermented" associated with "tobacco", it's never in a positive way. So that got me a little hesitant, but apparently the way it's done with this snus is okay, because it still has to meet Swedish Food Standards to be sold, so I can't complain or say it's going to kill me. (not that I thought that, but y'know....).
Now, a little about this snus. One of the first things I was looking for when I bought this, was to see if a GN Tobacco logo would be on the back, or Gajane. Turn the can over - Gajane logo. I was figuring GN Tobacco would have a logo specifically for the Olde Viking line, but maybe that's with the next round. The next thing was, "Can you judge a book by it's cover?" So much bad mojo is associated with the ugly hockey puck snus can, I had to see if this was going to be the worst snus I have ever tasted. I had to see if Gajane had translated the sheer awesomeness of Oden's to this new brand, Olde Viking.
After opening up the can, a very familiar smell hit me. I wasn't sure if it was true, because I heard 2 other people say this about this brand now, and I didn't want to fall in line. I didn't want to believe it! I went to the bathroom, grabbed a comparison product, and sure enough, the smell was dead on, accurate. And what was that familiar smell, you may ask? Toothpaste. It smelled like my Mint Colgate toothpaste. Which is okay, I like the smell of toothpaste, but not in a snus. I mean, c'mon. Really? Next step - in the lip. This is where Olde Viking will get the only praise I am going to issue. This snus portion is by far the most comfortable snus portion I have EVER put in my mouth, and that's saying alot because I've tried about everything. It's the most soft, pillowy portion that I believe I will ever encounter, because I honestly can't imagine anything more comfortable than this. The flavor? Well, it's minty, and actually kinda tastes like a minty toothpaste, really artificial flavor, doesn't last very long, burns out rather quick into a funky aftertaste. Decent nic hit, nothing major. It's got a burn though, and that's a significant part of this snus. A little burn in the lip, and some burn in the throat too. Not like, fiery intense burn or anything, but it's moderate and noticable.
To sum it all up, it wasn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be. But it wasn't that great either. With other better tasting mint snus such as Thunder Frosted, Offroad Frosted, and the new larger portion of General Mini Mint coming soon, this isn't going to make it on a reorder list for me. It wasn't the worst thing I've ever had (the American mint "SNUS" is much worse....) but it wasn't good enough to warrant me wanting more than the half a can I went through to get a good feel for it. That was enough for me.Comment
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Nice review Chad. It sounds like a solid pass for me. Although I like mint, I'm not a huge fan of portions, and the synthetic notes are a turn off. I'll have to give the Offroad Frosted lös a try.Comment
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Interesting review Chad. Your reaction reminds me of Europeans describing their first impressions of wintergreen tobacco products. mediciney and artificial.Comment
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One thing I've been wondering is if they termed it "Limited Edition" (on the can) so they could sell alot of them and get rid of the can? As they've observed, people like mint (especially Americans, apparently), so they produce a big batch of mint snus, fill the hockey puck cans, sell it all out, and then put it behind them and move on to other projects with new cans? I mean, if they bought a factory with all these cans, might as well sell 'em right? And what better way to do that than observe the snus market, see the sales of mint snus (more importantly those with a spearmint flavor - such as the always selling out Thunder Frosted), attempt to produce something similar, and sell it.
To be honest, Gajane is the last company I figured would cross into the mint territory, because Oden's just doesn't seem like it would have a Spearmint cousin hiding in an ugly hockey puck snus can. But maybe I'm reading too much into it.Comment
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GN Tobacco which is owned by Gajane has absolutely nothing to do with Liggett-Vector, Gran Prix, or Tourney. Previous factory owner SnusAB stopped production of Gran Prix and Tourney in September of 2008.
The Gran Prix and Tourney you see at the Gas Stations in the US is AT LEAST 15 months old.
When GNT picked up the SnusAB Factory at auction, it came with 100,000 empty hockey puck cans which they are currently using for Olde Viking.Comment
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So, Olde Viking snus at American gas stations has no basis in reality.Comment
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I hope the Original is going to be good. Now to be honest, while I don't hate it, I am not a fan of the Odens Classic Original, BUT I love the Odens ES Original, totally different tastes. If they can make a good Original regular strength, I do have an interest in that.Comment
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Olde Viking 6
Hi
Sorry that I haven´t replied to anyone yet since it has been a lot for me to do in work. I understand all the concerns with the Grand Prix and Olde Viking spearmint stories. But i could assure you that they are not the same at all. The tobacco mixture is not the same as Grand Prix or the other snus brand which was owned by Ligget Group. The production steps are not the same as Ligget Group. I heard on a review that a guy bought an Olde Viking in the Gas Store. We have no contract with anyone in US at the moment so that would be impossible. Although for people who are buying the Olde Viking Spearmint i want to make it clear that it is Spearmint you are buy, so it don´t be disappointed if you thought that it is frost ice or winter green. If you have a tooth paste which is spearmint well it should be a similar taste, which is spearmint. The Olde Viking is a spit less snus so in other words you could swallow the juice since in Sweden it is a Food product.
If you guys have further questions please do not hesitate to ask and i will try to reply as soon as possible.
Regards
AdrianComment
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Man this stuff has the most burn of any snus I have ever had. Its even hard to keep a portion in. The flavor isn't too bad. My opinion is surely demonstrated by the fact that I just received it 2 hours ago and I already have it on the snus exchange along with some others. Its worth a try but its never going in my mouth again. Sorry Adrian.
It IS better than Tourney and Gran Piss. Not at all the same.Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
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My god, you really don´t know how to make snus!!Originally posted by Adrian View Post
you make that in 110dg, it´s ok but you will also get a crappy shit snus!
80-85dg thats the correct tempature.
And what about that mention about ammoniac?
In all tobacco you got ammonium ! PH- avg. 5.0
when you add sodium carbonite you increase the ph to over 8,3 and the ammonium transferes by cemical reaction to ammoniac..
you can´t use diffrent tobaccos for this, you will always get ammoniac in the snus becoulse of the adding of sodium!
My god, give the people here correct facts, man../JimiComment
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I think I heard that Adrian doesn't work for GN or doesn't have anything to do with production or was confused about facts at one point in time or something.Originally posted by sharesnusinfo!Comment
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Brother cool down and chill and read what Chad says , by the way do you know now that it is possible to make 20 and 22 mg nic snus ??? Or you need lesson about thatOriginally posted by sharesnusinfo!
Or maybe Swedish Match is also lieing------ well be friend and dont stress you have good snus be happy
Yours
GNComment
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My problem was not nicotine levels between 20-22mg! it was your first statement of over 30mg/G.. were did that snus go? (i meen the 30mg/G!)Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden ABBrother cool down and chill and read what Chad says , by the way do you know now that it is possible to make 20 and 22 mg nic snus ??? Or you need lesson about that Or maybe Swedish Match is also lieing------ well be friend and dont stress you have good snus be happy
Yours
GN
And how come the level is 20-22 mg/G today?
Just sayin..
http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...ide-quot/page2
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Originally Posted by chadizzy1
When we were testing it, originally it had 30mg of nicotine as i was told with the early samples.
Sharesnusinfo!
Impossible! haha only a market jippo. trust me! unless they have invented a new tobacco grade..
It´s also against the law to add pure nicotine in a snus product in Sweden (So perhaps that product is only sold outside of Sweden!, in that case i would think twice trying it)
Just sayin!
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