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  • Cskruf
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 16

    Long cut snus?

    Hello all,

    I've been a long time dipper and recently switched to snus. I've enjoyed experimenting with all of the different brands and varieities thus far; but sometimes I still have the urge to throw in a lip of the American stuff. I'd like to switch to snus completely, mainly because I'd like to be able to take my kids to school without them having to explain why daddy is missing half his face.

    I was wondering if there are any longcut snus brands that may be coming down the pipeline. I've tried the offroad wintergreen despite the sub-par reviews, and found it to be rather terrible if I may be so bold.
    I heard via snusify that the Kardus snus had a texture similar to American snuff, but unfortunately the can version seems to have been discontinued, and it's only a limited production item now.

    On a side note, I don't know how much interest Joakim and Markus, or any Swedish snus manufacturer have in breaking into the American market; but a snus with a longer cut seems like a shoe-in.

    Thanks.
  • sagedil
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 7077

    #2
    I will let others more familiar with Los answer, but just wanted to say welcome to Snuson Cskruf

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    • Cskruf
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 16

      #3
      Originally posted by sagedil
      I will let others more familiar with Los answer, but just wanted to say welcome to Snuson Cskruf
      Much obliged. It's nice to finally post after being a long time lurker.

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        There is General and Roda Long Cut but they are generally unavailable to America. Best answer I can think of is Klondike which make a fine cut and a long cut snus. I tried some of the fine cut, it was OK, I guess, but they only have Straight, Peppermint, and Wintergreen, and I prefer Natural.

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        • chadizzy1
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 7432

          #5
          Offroad Wintergreen LongCut
          http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...ng%20Cut-2015/
          Snusify's Review of it -
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwXcMJ1ebI

          Klondike Straight LongCut
          http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...g%20Cut-16616/
          Snusify's review of it -
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCxXyFnyM4w

          Klondike Peppermint LongCut
          http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...g%20Cut-16607/

          Klondike Wintergreen LongCut
          http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...g%20Cut-16620/
          Snusify's review of it -
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfmMJrlg698

          Other than that, don't know what to say, I don't use longcut, but hope some of that helps.

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          • snusjus
            Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 2674

            #6
            If you're interested in Klondike, order from www.genuinetobacco.com

            A roll of 10 cans is $14.92!

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            • Snusdog
              Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 6752

              #7
              Welcome to the forum Cskruf. Glad to have you. I too came to snus by way of dipping and have never looked back. I think you will find this forum both very informative and a whole lot of fun. There are a lot of great folks here who are very knowledgeable.

              As far as long cut goes, I don't know of much out there and the ones I do know of I am not keen on recommending. I know many like Klondike but I worry over their production process. One of the big appeals of snus for me is the purity standard snus is required to meet. I'm not sure Klondike meets those standards and thus for me it is just a move back towards all I left with dip.

              That said, one thing I would recommend is to treat snus as a completely new type of product. Snus is not dip and thus has its own tendencies and style. As such, don't spend a lot of time trying to find a Swedish form of dip. You will just end up with nasty snus that is neither successful as snus or as dip. Instead let snus stand on its own. It won't be long and you will be glad you did.

              One more thing, a while back I posted a thread especially for dippers. It's called "A Dipper's Guide to Snus". Lots of knowledgeable folks have added their wisdom to it over time. You might find it helpful. You can check it out here:

              http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=4014

              Keep us posted on how it is going.

              the snus abides 8)

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              When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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              • Cskruf
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 16

                #8
                Thanks for the advice so far.

                I was hesitant to try Klondike at first, but after seeing Snusify's review I've decided to give it a shot (grizz green is also my dip of choice). I share your sentiment of being skeptical about the Swedish standards as opposed to the American ones snusdog; but as I understand it, as long as the tobacco is pasteurized rather than fermented then it should have a similarly low level of TSNA's.
                Feel free to correct me on that if you happen to know otherwise, I'd be happy to have the information.

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                • LaZeR
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3994

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Snusdog
                  Welcome to the forum Cskruf. Glad to have you. I too came to snus by way of dipping and have never looked back. I think you will find this forum both very informative and a whole lot of fun. There are a lot of great folks here who are very knowledgeable.
                  Ooops. & +1 sorry I missed welcoming you earlier. Listen to the dog. He knows his snus!

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                  • Snusdog
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6752

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cskruf
                    Thanks for the advice so far.

                    I was hesitant to try Klondike at first, but after seeing Snusify's review I've decided to give it a shot (grizz green is also my dip of choice). I share your sentiment of being skeptical about the Swedish standards as opposed to the American ones snusdog; but as I understand it, as long as the tobacco is pasteurized rather than fermented then it should have a similarly low level of TSNA's.
                    Feel free to correct me on that if you happen to know otherwise, I'd be happy to have the information.
                    I don't want to bash Klondike or seem to be disputing what those who would recommend it have said. I just know that Klondike originally started out promoting their product as following one standard of production and then seemed to very quietly back off of that commitment/claim. That is the sole extent of my concern. But it is enough to make me leery and to make me stick with snus produced under a known and holistic measure (i.e. the Swedish purity standards).

                    That said, let me add:
                    In this wide world TSNA is not the only carcinogen to worry about and there is not merely one phase of production that we can focus on to the exclusion of the many other phases involved.

                    Case in point: My lip did not get shredded by TSNA nor was it because the leaf was originally cured by fermentation. There is more to it than just one thing (that is what I meant by a holistic measure- one that looks at the product as a finished whole together with its various stages of production- vs. one aspect or just one stage of production).
                    When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                    • Snusdog
                      Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6752

                      #11
                      Thanks for the props Laz. May the Valkyrie bear you snus and mead in the great halls of the north


                      8)

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                      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                      • Snusify
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 618

                        #12
                        I think that if you are looking for a snus that has the flavour and character of long cut dip then you will not find it anywhere.

                        The long cut snus such as klondike and offroad just tastes bad.

                        Nobody has made a dip that tastes as good as ettan and nobody has made a snus that tastes like copenhagen. I dont think it will ever happen as the curing process of the tobacco goes a long way toward the overall flavour.

                        I love American Smokless tobacco but love Snus even more. Why not just snus when you want and dip when you want.

                        My snus usage is 90% and American dip 10%
                        Snus and Dip Video Reviews


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                        • LaZeR
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 3994

                          #13
                          Originally posted by snusify
                          Nobody has made a dip that tastes as good as ettan and nobody has made a snus that tastes like copenhagen. I dont think it will ever happen as the curing process of the tobacco goes a long way toward the overall flavour.
                          Most accurate statement ever made.

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                          • Cskruf
                            Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Originally posted by snusify
                            I think that if you are looking for a snus that has the flavour and character of long cut dip then you will not find it anywhere.

                            The long cut snus such as klondike and offroad just tastes bad.

                            Nobody has made a dip that tastes as good as ettan and nobody has made a snus that tastes like copenhagen. I dont think it will ever happen as the curing process of the tobacco goes a long way toward the overall flavour.

                            I love American Smokless tobacco but love Snus even more. Why not just snus when you want and dip when you want.

                            My snus usage is 90% and American dip 10%
                            Great post, and point taken.

                            Thanks again Snusify. Love the youtube channel.

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                            • Snusdog
                              Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6752

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LaZeR
                              Originally posted by snusify
                              Nobody has made a dip that tastes as good as ettan and nobody has made a snus that tastes like copenhagen. I dont think it will ever happen as the curing process of the tobacco goes a long way toward the overall flavour.
                              Most accurate statement ever made.

                              +1 Great post snusify

                              Don't try to make snus be dip. Let snus be snus

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                              When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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