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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
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    FDA takes its time on tobacco regulation

    FDA takes its time on tobacco regulation
    By MICHAEL FELBERBAUM (AP) – 3 hours ago

    RICHMOND, Va. — A year after a new law put tobacco regulation in the hands of the Food and Drug Administration, one thing is clear: It will likely be years before any of the most aggressive steps to reduce deaths from smoking might happen.

    When President Barack Obama signed the bill into law last June, anti-tobacco advocates suggested it could lead to a reduction in nicotine levels, a ban on menthol cigarettes or other aggressive moves.

    Such moves are still a long way down the road as the FDA takes its time assessing the scientific evidence for what would best improve public health. That leaves the future of the industry and effects on both companies and consumers under a cloud of smoke.

    But for public health experts, one thing is clear — more needs to be done to snuff out the death and disease caused by cigarettes and other tobacco products, and stop people from using them in the first place.

    The FDA's measured approach hasn't stopped it from making changes prescribed by the law: limiting marketing, especially to children; banning flavored cigarettes except for menthol; removing labels such as "light," "mild" and "low-tar" from cigarette packs; and increased the size of warning labels on smokeless tobacco. It has also begun to look at the ingredients in cigarettes as well as the health impacts of menthol and dissolvable tobacco products.

    In a short period, the FDA has made real progress that will begin to have a meaningful health impact, said Matthew Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.

    While the law doesn't let the FDA ban nicotine or tobacco outright, the agency could lower nicotine to non-addictive levels. And that's exactly what former FDA Commissioner David Kessler, who championed the anti-tobacco public health movement, wants to see happen.

    "The tobacco industry knew 40 years ago that there was a threshold below which people would quit," Kessler said in an interview with The Associated Press. "Reducing the level of nicotine in cigarettes will change cigarette smoking as we know it. It is the ultimate harm reduction strategy."

    Most smokers ingest between 1 to 3 milligrams of nicotine per cigarette. Kessler suggests that the FDA lower that number to between 1 and .5 milligrams.

    While some will argue such a proposal is akin to prohibition, making cigarettes less addictive would reduce the vast majority of the more than 400,000 deaths per year from smoking in the U.S., Kessler said.

    "It is now time to reverse the trajectory of smoking initiation, sustained addiction and premature death," he said. "Ultimately the agency's success needs to be measured in terms of the number of people who smoke and the number of kids who start."

    Kessler's suggestion to make tobacco less addictive deserves "serious consideration," said the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids' Myers.

    There are two approaches to regulating tobacco use: one that says there's no safe way to use tobacco and pushes for people to quit above all else. Others embrace the idea that lower-risk alternatives like smokeless tobacco and other nicotine delivery systems like gum or even electronic cigarettes can help improve overall health.
    The law lays out the possibility for both, prescribing a scientific approach to improve public health, said Dr. Lawrence Deyton, director of the FDA's Center for Tobacco Products.


    "There's multiple strategies the FDA will be considering," Deyton said in an interview with The Associated Press. "We certainly have not made any determination on one side or another."

    Deyton did not say whether Kessler's suggestion would become a reality, but said the law does allow the FDA to set nicotine levels.

    No matter the approach, Deyton said he wants Americans to trust what the agency's work on tobacco.

    "We now get the opportunity to speak the truth about tobacco products and do so in a reasonable way," Deyton said. "We will not do it as zealots, we will not do it as aggressive government. We will do it in a methodical, reasonable way."

    Within the next year, a scientific panel will issue recommendations on how the FDA should regulate menthol-flavored cigarettes. Smokes with the minty flavoring are a key area for growth in a shrinking cigarette market. Most industry observers think a menthol ban is unlikely.

    The FDA also must issue guidelines requiring larger, graphic warning labels for cigarette advertisements and packages by next June. Tobacco companies will have 15 months to comply.

    A suit filed by several tobacco makers claiming the marketing restrictions, including a ban on color and graphics in most tobacco advertising, violate their free speech rights remains in federal appeals court. A federal judge in Kentucky upheld most of the restrictions, but both the FDA and the tobacco companies that challenged them have appealed parts of the ruling.
    Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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    "We will not do it as zealots, we will not do it as aggressive government. We will do it in a methodical, reasonable way."

    ^ Wonder how many ways there are to interpret that statement?
    Depends on which side of the fence you're standing --- or what planet you're on...

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  • tom502
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 8985

    #2
    15 months to comply to the new labels? I guess it's time for them to sell off their older stock.

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    • myuserid
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 1645

      #3
      Wow.

      So if I'm reading the article correctly, it is the government's job to decide for people that they need to quit smoking and not the other way around.

      A further reduction of personal responsibility.....Yay.

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      • snusgetter
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 10903

        #4
        Originally posted by myuserid View Post
        Wow.

        ...it is the government's job to decide for people that they need to quit smoking and not the other way around.

        A further reduction of personal responsibility.....Yay.
        ^ Pretty much, in today's atmosphere,
        ....and not just for this issue!!

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        • myuserid
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 1645

          #5
          Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
          ^ Pretty much, in today's atmosphere,
          ....and not just for this issue!!
          You're right.

          The governement screws up everything it touches, but continues to think it knows best.

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          • snusgetter
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 10903

            #6
            According to Darwin:

            "There is no reduced harm in most federal legislation."

            Pretty much spot-on!

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            • myuserid
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 1645

              #7
              The government has the Midas touch: Everything it touches turns to mufflers.

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              • asidrave
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 195

                #8
                Originally posted by myuserid View Post
                The government has the Midas touch: Everything it touches turns to mufflers.
                Lol

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                • NonServiam
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 736

                  #9
                  Well, that's just great! Let's reduce the level of nicotine, that should make them quit smoking. I would think that would make us smoke/dip more just to get the fix. But what do they care, that just means more taxes earned for the gov't in lieu of their outrageous tobacco taxes I think I'll have to buy one of those classy smokeless tobacco tins to put my cans in so I don't have to look at these new hideous warning labels which just ruins the nostalgia of tobacco.

                  If our government keeps at this pace, I could see something similar to a Civil War II. Obama's Health Care Reform bill has already prompted many southern states to sue the federal gov't stating they will not abide by the federal law (don't know how well that would work out). The next step from that would be the southern states choosing to secede from the union. Allegedly, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana still have a loophole in the original treaty which allow them to secede.

                  I know this Texoarkla idea strays from the topic but it is humorous. I'm sure it has areas which could be disputed, but I didn't post it as accuracy, just for entertainment purposes only. Snusgetter, if my post totally derails your thread I apologize. I'm not a hi-jacker :

                  THE COUNTRY of TEXOARKLA

                  In case things get a little tougher during the next few months, we In LOUISIANA, TEXAS , OKLAHOMA & ARKANSAS have a plan.

                  Maybe you don't know it, but LOUISIANA , TEXAS , OKLAHOMA , & ARKANSAS have a legal right to secede from the Union . (Reference the Texas/Louisiana-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)

                  Us TEXOARKLANS love y'all Americans, but we'll probably have to take action since Barack Obama won the election and is now the President of the U.S.A. We'll miss y'all though.

                  Here is what can happen:

                  1. Barack Hussein Obama, after becoming the President of the United States , begins to try and create a socialist country, then TEXAS , LOUISIANA , ARKANSAS and OKLAHOMA announces that they are going to secede from the Union .

                  So what does TEXOARKLA have to do to survive as a Republic?

                  1. NASA is just south of Houston , Texas . We will control the space industry.

                  2. We refine over 90% of the gasoline in the United States .

                  3. Defense Industry--we have over 65% of it. The term "Don't mess with TEXAS ," will take on a whole new meaning.

                  4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of TEXOARKLA will need for the next 300 years. What will the other states do? Gee, we don't know. Why not ask Obama?

                  5. Natural Gas - again, we have all we need and it's too bad about those Northern States. John Kerry and Al Gore will just have to figure out a way to keep them warm.

                  6. Computer Industry - we lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications equipment - small companies like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Nortel, Alcatel, etc... The list goes on and on.

                  7. Medical Care - We have the research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world, as well as other large health centers.

                  8. We have enough colleges to keep educating and making smarter citizens: University of Texas , Texas A&M, Texas Tech, University of Oklahoma , Oklahoma State University, UL-Lafayette, UL-Monroe, LSU, Louisiana Tech University , University of Arkansas , Arkansas State University, Baylor, Rice, TCU, SMU and MANY more.

                  9. We have an intelligent and energetic work force and it isn't restricted by a bunch of unions. Here in TEXOARKLA, we are a Right-to-Work State and, therefore, it's every man and woman for themselves. We just go out and get the job done. And if we don't like the way one company operates, we get a job somewhere else.

                  10. We have essential control of the paper, plastics, and insurance industries, etc.

                  11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the TEXOARKLA National Guard, the TEXOARKLA Air National Guard, and several military bases. We don't have an Army, but since everybody down here has at least six guns and a pile of ammo, we can raise an Army in 24 hours if we need one. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call the Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over the Texas Rangers.

                  12. We are totally self-sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables.

                  13. FIVE of the ten largest cities in the United States and THIRTY-TWO of the 100 largest cities in the United States are located in TEXOARKLA. And TEXOARKLA also has more land than California , New York , New Jersey , Connecticut , Delaware , Hawaii , Massachusetts , Maryland , Rhode Island and Vermont combined.

                  14. Trade: FIVE of the ten largest ports in the United States are located in TEXOARKLA.

                  15. We also manufacture cars down here, but we don't need to. You see, nothing rusts in TEXOARKLA so our vehicles stay beautiful and run well for decades.

                  This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of TEXOARKLA in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.

                  Now to the rest of you folks in the United States under President Obama:

                  Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Obama will be able to drive around in his big 9 mpg SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.

                  You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off satellite communications.

                  You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Al Gore has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas as long as you survive the 2000 years it will take to get enough heat from Global Warming.

                  In other words, the rest of ya'll in the USA are ____________________.


                  Signed, The People of TEXOARKLA

                  P.S. This is not a threatening letter - just a note to give you something to think about!

                  Sleep well tonight 'cause the eyes of TEXOARKLA are on YOU!!

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                  • Langdell
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 255

                    #10
                    Any chance TEXOARKLA could annex Sweden?

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                    • timholian
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1448

                      #11
                      Texas would never include any other state, after all its called "The Lone Star State".
                      I have seen this email before but just as a Texas one.
                      I am American, sure I am Texan also but I didn't serve in the U.S. Army because I agree with secession. Its fun to think about, like I said I am Texan, but not a very practical.

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                      • NonServiam
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 736

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Langdell View Post
                        Any chance TEXOARKLA could annex Sweden?
                        Sure! But how about Sweden annex us so they can help provide us with snus. Well I guess it's the same difference. Just watch out for those slick spots on the Texoarkla coast

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                        • NonServiam
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 736

                          #13
                          Originally posted by timholian View Post
                          Texas would never include any other state, after all its called "The Lone Star State".
                          I have seen this email before but just as a Texas one.
                          I am American, sure I am Texan also but I didn't serve in the U.S. Army because I agree with secession. Its fun to think about, like I said I am Texan, but not a very practical.
                          Can't argue with you there! Heard someone asking the other day if Texas (a southern state) displays as much southern pride as other southern states. Their answer was "no" because Texas has Texan pride. You guys are almost like a country, not a state.

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                          • ladysnus
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 601

                            #14
                            Originally posted by timholian View Post
                            Texas would never include any other state, after all its called "The Lone Star State".
                            I have seen this email before but just as a Texas one.
                            I am American, sure I am Texan also but I didn't serve in the U.S. Army because I agree with secession. Its fun to think about, like I said I am Texan, but not a very practical.
                            It might not be practical, but if it did happen, I would move back to Texas so fast. The only way that this could truely work is to throw everyone out that is not a born Texan.
                            Just my thoughts on the matter, hehe

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                            • snusgetter
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                              • May 2010
                              • 10903

                              #15
                              But.. will TEXOARKLA approval be forthcoming??

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