One of the biggest things I have noticed, and I agree with you lx, is the amount of warning labels on this new order I just got in is ridiculous. What is wrong with one small warning? Instead I get cans that are plastered with warnings all over. Crazy world we live in anymore.
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If they really cared about people's health, there would be a link to the FDA website, made in the same size the Swedish warning is on the bottom of the tin, with PEER REVIEWED research telling of the harms AND benefits of using various tobacco products. That's if they really cared....Originally posted by BrianCComment
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Unfortunately, peer review isn't what it used to be. With less and less government funding for research, no professional wants to give a bad review to a study funded by a corporation that they might be seeking a grant from in the future. Scholarly publishing is as riddled with corruption and (mostly fruitless) calls for reform as any other part of our sad, sick civilization.Originally posted by lxskllrComment
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Maybe, but readers can parse the data as needed. Any ridiculous claims will be outed as necessary, and supporting data provided. I don't appreciate being treated as a child, and in the end it's up to me to make my own decision. Illegal restraint of trade is never the answer.Originally posted by PipenSnus View PostComment
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yeah i dont find snus that fun anymore either. or snuson for that matter. bummer.Comment
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That is so true!Originally posted by lxskllrComment
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That's how it's supposed to work in theory, but in fact most of the ridiculous claims are so buried in arcane statistical methodology that even most professionals are fooled. Why do you think so many people die from prescription drugs every year? (And I'm not talking about abuse of prescription drugs, which is another issue entirely.) Most doctors don't have time to analyze the statistics, and assume vetting by the peer review board is good enough. But their patients still end up dead or maimed, and it gets blithely explained away and brushed under the rug.Originally posted by lxskllr
Don't get me wrong, I heartily agree with your sentiments. But you're assuming rationality where in fact little exists.Comment
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i'm just so damn tired of the government telling me what is right for me by limiting TV, Radio, Internet etc etc... or now mandating i get healthcare in the interest of "the children" - its all a power play, and a money grab - where do fcc,epa,atf fines and penalties go? / i pay my taxes - now leave me alone /Comment
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What I dont understand is why the Swiss even give a rats ass what the new US law is, why should they even care?
I have connections in Hong Kong, Spain, Sweden, and Canada where I can buy cuban cigars they could care less what the US law says they ship here anyway.Comment
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At least the only thing the warnings say is that smokeless tobacco is addictive...no shit, but I do agree with you lx. if they have to list the risks, they should be able to say the benefits as well. I tired of hearing that all tobacco products will kill you when it just isn't true. And yes, you have to be 18 to buy tobacco products, which means that you are able to make your own decision, because you are an adult, so stop treating us like we are babies.
As a matter of fact I would suggest that nicotine is GOOD for my health. I have a tendency to slip into depression, which I saw once again while I was using camel snus, but if I get my daily dose of vitamine n, I don't have that issue. Now if I was on anti-depressants, I would argue that those chemicals would be a lot worse for my health than snus, or perhaps even smoking. If they are going to say that all tobacco products will kill you, they at least need to be able to state the long term health risks of all the damn pills 'they' like to put people on. But I know, there is way to much money in prescription medications for that to ever happen. This world is just broken, end of story.Comment
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Nicotine does indeed have health benefits, but you won't find many doctors who will dare to say so. There have been discussions here at SnusOn before on the subject. It's a cognitive stimulant that helps with depression, ADHD, Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia. Gerontologists given their Alzheimer's patients nicotine patches because it helps them think more clearly. And Chantix was invented by a psychoneurologist who was researching why so many of his schizophrenic patients smoked.Originally posted by BrianC View PostComment
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Yeah and it is sad that nobody would dare to suggest it. It has been a life saver for me, literally lol. It seems that it is only a matter of time before findings indicate the major risks of antidepressants, now how much has swedish snus been researched? Real shame.Comment
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I'm addicted to water and air, too.Originally posted by BrianC View Post
Edit: I also need to eat every day.Comment
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