Important question !!*

[snusgetter]

LOL If anything SnusOn has saved me. It's a great place to vent (and I have done my share) but it also helps put things in perspective (like realizing how insignificant we are in relation to world and US events and our control over them <sigh>). And I love the friends I have made here.

I'll second that emotion.

[jagmanss]

That's really a relative term.

What about the poor bastard (and, yes, I mean poor) who's trying to get out from under a long-term smoking addiction (that probably started back when you would get free matches with your smokes, which themselves were under a buck a pack). Cheap smokes eventually evolved into an overtaxed albatross, and resulting ill health.

Along comes snus, probably the safest harm-reduction alternative to smoking. Much cheaper than cancer-sticks, and bystanders are not subjected to irritating smoke. Definitely a win-win situation.

Then the shit literally hits the fan. The stop smoking gurus, not satisfied with demonizing cigarettes, now go after tobacco itself. But ineffective nicotine big-pharma products are left untouched because there's no tobacky in their products.

In their quest for power, these idiots push for the PACTCRAP Act to 'save the children'. And that pack of wolves we've elected to look out for the interests of all their constituents goes along for the ride after pocketing the graft ... whoops, I mean contributions ... they've received from Big Pharma. In the process, what started out as a fairly inexpensive means to defeating a bad addiction has more than doubled in price for most of us, and we know there's no end in sight --- this is just the beginning of a major cluster****.

Yep, we should definitely feel lucky.

Just think how much luckier we'll feel when a month's
supply of snus will cost as much as a week's rent!!

/rant

While I agree with everything you said, And as you stated snus is still cheaper than smoking even post pact, So I do feel lucky...I'm one of those poor bastard's well ok!! Not poor yet!! and no ill health that i know of, Well sort of
I did start back when you could get free matches with your smokes, which were under a buck a pack, hell I remember them at 52 cents and even lower and remember saying when they reached a buck I would quit... But here I am 38 yrs later and while snus has gotten me down to 3-5 max smokes a day from being A chain smoker. so I come along and find snus and the pactcrap starts just as i find it back in july and am just as pissed as the rest and feel like a poor bastard in that aspect...

[snusgetter]

While I agree with everything you said, And as you stated snus is still cheaper than smoking even post pact, So I do feel lucky...I'm one of those poor bastard's well ok!! Not poor yet!! and no ill health that i know of, Well sort of
I did start back when you could get free matches with your smokes, which were under a buck a pack, hell I remember them at 52 cents and even lower and remember saying when they reached a buck I would quit... But here I am 38 yrs later and while snus has gotten me down to 3-5 max smokes a day from being A chain smoker. so I come along and find snus and the pactcrap starts just as i find it back in july and am just as pissed as the rest and feel like a poor bastard in that aspect...

Sometimes it might not be so great reliving memories.

Cigarettes at 25-cents a pack!!

Gas at 15-cents a gallon (10-cents during the infamous price wars)!!

Bread at ................. well, you get the point.

Now I gotta double up again on my lipped Boost Snus!!

[CoderGuy]

Sometimes it might not be so great reliving memories.

Cigarettes at 25-cents a pack!!

Gas at 15-cents a gallon (10-cents during the infamous price wars)!!

Bread at ................. well, you get the point.

Now I gotta double up again on my lipped Boost Snus!!

On the plus side... porn has gotten a lot cheaper and easier to get. :P

[jagmanss]

Sometimes it might not be so great reliving memories.

Cigarettes at 25-cents a pack!!

Gas at 15-cents a gallon (10-cents during the infamous price wars)!!

Bread at ................. well, you get the point.

Now I gotta double up again on my lipped Boost Snus!!

Agreed... As you just brought back some more... Point taken

[jagmanss]

On the plus side... porn has gotten a lot cheaper and easier to get. :P

So There is a plus in all of this after all

[Snarfblat]

I don't think multiple rolls are going to pass through customs unnoticed, especially via UPS. I've never tried it myself though, and would love to hear if you're successful.

Here's the taxes by Province. We really get screwed in Alberta... no PST/HST, but those amounts are small compared to $0.30 per gram, which is by far the most tax in Canada. That's $7.20 in tobacco tax on a tin of portions, plus excise tax, plus GST, plus "handling fees". It's ridiculous to say the least.

It is a little funny to hear Americans complaining loud and hard about $20 tax on a roll or whatever since PACT. I'm so jealous!

[snusgetter]

I don't think multiple rolls are going to pass through customs unnoticed, especially via UPS. I've never tried it myself though, and would love to hear if you're successful.

Here's the taxes by Province. We really get screwed in Alberta... no PST/HST, but those amounts are small compared to $0.30 per gram, which is by far the most tax in Canada. That's $7.20 in tobacco tax on a tin of portions, plus excise tax, plus GST, plus "handling fees". It's ridiculous to say the least.

It is a little funny to hear Americans complaining loud and hard about $20 tax on a roll or whatever since PACT. I'm so jealous!

It's our testosterone version of PMS >>> Pissing and Moaning Syndrome

[CoderGuy]

It's our testosterone version of PMS >>> Pissing and Moaning Syndrome

+1

[justintempler]

Sometimes it might not be so great reliving memories.

Cigarettes at 25-cents a pack!!

Gas at 15-cents a gallon (10-cents during the infamous price wars)!!

Bread at ................. well, you get the point.

Now I gotta double up again on my lipped Boost Snus!!

A found a pic of snusgetter surfing the web back in those days:

[GoVegan]

I am thinking of doing a large 50-60 can order from Northerner via UPS. I will pay the extra money for a large quantity of snus to throw in my freezer, this is the first time I've ever been out of snus, ever!


Will i get charged tobacco tax on an order like this? How much could it possibly be?

I live in ontario canada and customs tacks on 35$ for a roll. (i do 2 orders a week, 4 cans each...lesson learned)

N&J strong
general long
goteborg rape
general white portion
ettan los
phantom blue white
+ice tool 3ml

I just want to know what you do for a living? That is a serious order.

[snusgetter]

A found a pic of snusgetter surfing the web back in those days:

WOWZER!!

Another blast from the past.

Close, though. My first 'puter was a Trash-80...

Finally dumped ... whoops, recycled ... it about a year ago.

I do remember building my first (and only) radio broadcaster in the early '60s; my neighbors actually found the 'station' and started making requests -- that ended when the unit thankfully died.

[c.nash]

**** taxes and shit! For everyone!

[GoVegan]

That's funny! My first computer was a Timex Sinclair because a Commodore Vic 20 was expensive. I finally broke down and bought a TRS 80 Model 4P. It must have weighed about 30 lbs but it was considered portable because the keyboard folded on top. It had a green screen, no hard drive and was a bear to try and get it to do anything. My first modem was a Hayes compatible 300/600/900 baud. People tended to use local bulletin boards to connect as AOL used to cost a fortune.

I miss playing Zaxxon!

[jagmanss]

A found a pic of snusgetter surfing the web back in those days:

Although It wasn't that system, I was a computer operator back in the late 70's, 80's and early 90's when they used keypunch and card readers to run programs, Used tape reels and a computer room was 2 floors of an office building...

Figures I would notice the ash tray that the paper is laying in. I remember when all my co-workers and myself all had smokes and an ashtray