I've worked out that Northerner's current stash of General Original Portions are about a month younger than BuySnus's and so I've been ordering from them recently. When the Snus arrives and I first open a tin it's nice and moist and fragrent and is very enjoyable and gives a good punch but I find after even just a couple of days in the fridge it starts to dry out, go darker in colour and does not taste as good. I think it's to do with once you open the can and the air gets to it. Does anyone know of anything you can do with your open cans of refrigerated Snus to keep it in tip top condition for longer?
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Maybe something along the lines of:
http://www.nextag.com/vacuum-food-container/search-html
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when you are using the snus do you carry it in a pocket that is close to your body? i warmed a few cans up that way when I first started and it seemed to dry it out a bit. I now keep them away from my body or other sources of heat and put them in the fridge in the meat section when i get home.
surprised to hear that northerner has stuff that is a month newer since buyS pulls the product directly from the mfg and does not stock product.
if it comes down to it, just order a few cans at a time and make more orders.
good luck!Comment
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Thanks for this. I didn't think of this. I will get a vacuum container and try keeping any open tins in the fridge in it. Hopefully it should do the trick.Originally posted by XobelootComment
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Yes, I was surprised too about Northerner. But I recall ordering from BuySnus 1 week and Northerner the other and the Best Before date on the General from Northerner was a month later. This may change but it seems to be the case at the moment.Originally posted by STORM6490MT
I have started to only order a week's supply at a time to keep the Snus fresher now which seems to help. It takes me too long to go through a role in the time it would still be in tip top condition.Comment
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They both buy direct from the factory, but they both must keep some stock - it's inconceivable that they can do same-day shipping AND order direct from the factory for each order. I'm sure that they both run on low-stock and replenish very regularly to keep things as fresh as humanly possible, but I don't see how they can run a business without at least a small pile to make the day's orders with. Invariably, as seems to be the case, one will have snus that's a few weeks older/newer for any given brand.
The factory, also, keeps some stock for very much the same reasons. When you get snus "direct from the factory" what you get is what comes out of the factory's stock, not what just came off the machines that day. For a place like Swedish Match, I'm pretty sure that they use the same machines for a variety of their brands, so what likely happens is that, for example, General will be on the machines for a few days/weeks in some rotation - everything goes into the factory stock, then Ettan is made and the General sits there depleting as orders come to the factory, the Ettan comes off and maybe they do a day of TreAnkare, a few days of N&J, a day of Probe, etc, etc. So what comes out of SM's factor may be even a few weeks apart in freshness.Comment
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Originally posted by Zero
It's a cool business opportunity called DROP SHIP or drop shiping. They take all the information from the customer and take care of all the expensive aspects of selling the item and it cuts out the middle man. Most tobacco companies in America use distributors but these Swedes are able to drop ship to other countries and make a little profit on the side for their efforts.Comment
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I've learned something today. Awesome.
This explains my lingering questions about the unique postage labels from Northerner and BuySnus (from Wiki) :
Retailers that drop ship merchandise from wholesalers may take measures to hide this fact to avoid any stigma, or to keep the wholesale source from becoming widely known. This can be affected by "blind shipping" (shipping merchandise without a return address), or "private label shipping" (having merchandise shipped from the wholesaler with a return address customized to the retailer). A customized packing slip may also be included by the wholesaler, indicating the retailer's company name, logo, and/or contact information.Comment
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as far as vacuum items are concerned, i have a reynolds handi-vac. it's just a small handheld vacuum with a mouth on it that has a rubber gasket, that gets pressed up to a type of valve thing on a specialized resealable bag.
it works pretty good, if you don't open/close the bags often (despite it says that you can...you can, but it's a crapshoot it seems with different bags), the bags will gain some type of leakage and they won't stay vacuumed for some reason...not sure why (perhaps some tiny hole torn on the bag from banging it around, or the valve gets worn out or the seal gets worn out). the small bags aren't so bad and work the best.
at least it's rather cheap compared to many other brands out there ($10 for the vacuum and some sample bags, then just a few bucks for refill containers of different sizes of vacuum bags)
in terms of temperature, never take snus with you if it's going to get warm. it will turn sour and be absolutely worthless, leaving a very shitty aftertaste.
snus can get room temp and be fine for a few times, but not often. when it gets warm it either takes a huge hit in freshness or gets totally ruined.
i rarely ever take snus with me anyway because i don't see a need when i don't need a portion in my mouth constantly when i'm done with the portion i had in when i left the house, and the portions last a while for me (on the order of a couple hours, i'm not one of these finicky-folk who get rid of it in a matter of 20 minutes)
also, as far as freezing goes, only do this for long-term storage of snus you've got surplus of..and take out when ready to use, only to go back into the fridge. not storage between uses of the same cans.
otherwise you run the risk of making the flavor go rather flat..like beer does when thawing/cooling. some brands are very susceptible, others it doesn't matter a whole bunch.
try to order in the winter months, cool weather. ordering when the weather is a hot anus outside is just asking for bad/halfass snus..especially as shipping in a truck and sitting in your mailbox or on your doorstep outside is often hotter than the regular outside air.
also, when using loose, try to pack the snus into one side of the can, instead of letting it sort of float around the can all 'loose'...this will hold the moisture better if it's all together in one piece, rather than tilled up and separated from each other.
oh and make sure your lids are on snug! too often have i thought i closed a can and it turned out i didn't do it all the way and the damn thing is dry hell.
i'm sure there's folks out there who'll think i'm full of shit and taking it too far, but seriously, they either don't have a trained tongue or don't care about having their snus as fresh as possible (and to some of us, that fresh crisp bite of a certain flavor we like is extremely important)
granted, snus can still satisfy if it's not 100% super fresh, but it's always so much better if it is.Comment
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Zero / STORM6490MT - Do we think BuySnus/Northerer might be getting the Snus distributors to Dropship for them? (eg. We place an order at BuySnus/Northerner and pay them for it then they order it from the distributors and pay for it at a slighly lower price that the RRP, they retain the small profit and then the distributor posts the Snus directly to us in either plain envelopes or ones with customised labels)? That must be a good business opportunity if you live in Sweden if you can get enough customers.Comment
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RealmofOpeth - Nice to see I'm not the only one who's really picky about the freshness of their Snus
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I would go nuts if I tried to do everything that Opeth just mentioned.
My habits for keeping snus fresh are terrible:
1) wake up and choose what snus I want today
2) take can out of fridge and pack a piece in my icetool
3) put can in pocket/drive to work
4) lay can on desk for the day
5) put can back in fridge when I get home
Other than it baking easier when chilled, I have yet to notice any deterioration in taste due to daily warming/cooling. My daily can-of-choice is unrefridgerated anywhere between 10-16hrs per day).Comment
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Originally posted by Xobeloot
well i'm not talking like some 1% difference, i'm talking like half the taste is gone after thawing/freezing of a few snus brands. gotlandssnus, goteborgs rape, and some others i don't remember at the moment. but it is VERY noticeable. the gotlands thankfully gained flavor back when i just left it in the fridge (the yellow, not sure about the grey). when i first use goteborgs rape, i always notice the very sharp and spicy flavor it has. after that it seems to dwindle rather fast into just a sort of salty tangyness going on that's not bad, still enjoyable, but nowhere near as kickass as it was when i first open it.
as far as heating it up during the day, i don't know about you, if you're using white portions and what not, but my portions almost always turn to shit, even if they're white portions. they'll survive a few goes, but after that i better use them fast or i just get half a can i can't get through because it's so god awful.
it's not so bad if you blaze through the can, but if you're anything like me in regards to different flavors (which it seems you are), you'll sample from all different kinds in your stash over a period of time and therefore just increasing the window for it to go bad. if you just serially go through snus it's no big deal as it doesn't get much of a chance to deteriorate.
i wish i could go through snus one can at a time, much like any body else in sweden does or most people who smoke do in going through their packs...they buy one flavor/brand at a time. not hmm, i'll smoke a few of these today..put the pack away for a couple weeks as they're going down the list of all the other brands they're trying from the stash they order every several months.
and as far as vacuum products, i believe they're a must especially for the cans that have cardboard, as they're porous. all the cans aren't super tightly sealed either, the snus will start to dry a bit and that can suck as well. not too big of a deal for white portions of course, but for loose it's a must, both for keeping the moisture while in the fridge and keeping from freezerburn in the freezer (just another form of keeping the moisture in the product)Comment
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