I know it has probably been address but Snus and oral cancer concern.

[snustocope]

I have not dipped in about 10 years. That was what I liked, but I was a casual dipper.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a more than stressful day, but a depressing one at that.

I decided to pick up a tin of Camel Frost.

Since then I have reignited an infatuation that has lead to snus.

I have since purchased the more gourmet pure General Mint and Wintergreen.

As I continue to be interested in this, especially about the purity, I am still concerned about the oral cancer rates if they exist.

I work in the dental profession which is sort of taboo for someone like me to snus, but it alleviates stress.

I just know the oral cavity is really vascular and oral cancer is dangerous because it spreads so quickly.


Just wondering if there has been ongoing and large studies yielding hopefully negative oral cancer results from Snus users over time?


The problem is, I really like it but don't want to do myself in too quickly.


Incidentally, I am snusing General WinterGreen right now.


Any sincere responses would be greatly appreciated.

[fcamel]

Snus does not cause oral cancer. Snus only increases the risk of pancreatic cancer and thats about it. Snus is about 98% safer than cigarettes and also a lot safer than dip.

[lxskllr]

The pancreatic cancer connection isn't definite. AFAIK all reports come from one flawed study. More research needs to be done. Even if the study's results stand, the increase isn't that great when it's all said and done. Oral cancer? No. There's even a study that shows a minor decrease in oral cancer rates amongst snus users. Not a statistically valid decrease, but there none the less. Snus can cause gum recession, and that would be my primary concern. Gum recession is a natural part of aging, but using snus can speed it up.

[Ainkor]

Hell yeah it does. It's all that fiberglass and crap in it.

Just messing with ya about it

Every study I have read (a shit ton) points to the fact that your more likely to get oral cancer from engaging in oral sex with someone who has the HPV virus.

The Wikipedia page has some good info. Here is a link to the abstract of a large study done:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...678-3/fulltext

Bottom line...... Your more likely to die from the added stress than from anything snus related. If it keeps you calm, pop a portion mate!

[Frosted]

It is thought that as the tobacco leaf is so rich in flavonoids that it could actually protect against certain cancers.
No study has been carried out to test this directly.

[sgreger1]

It is thought that as the tobacco leaf is so rich in flavonoids that it could actually protect against certain cancers.
No study has been carried out to test this directly.

Maybe Precious007 can do some "medical research" and find out for us, we need top men for this project. Top men with high IQ's, nothing less.

[WickedKitchen]

I think General Wintergreen is dangerous. I keed.

I'm more concerned about the blood pressure effects than cancer...as I sit here with a coffee and a Nick & Johnny portion. Ha!

[Reynard]

I think General Wintergreen is dangerous.

General Wintergreen is currently my favourite snus :-) Not as good as Jak's for flavour but as an 8mg snus I love it!

[snustocope]

I have been purchasing most of my snus from a cigar shop here in Maryland.
I wanted to try the Thunder frost but I notice that getsnus.com doesn't have Maryland listed as a shipping location?
Since it is located in Pennsylvania, I thought it would be easy on the shipping.

Does anyone here live in Maryland and can tell me where to order from where the shipping is not 30 bucks or higher.
Or is there a way to order from getsnus.com if you live in Maryland.

The only available snus I have found in Maryland cigar stores, is General.
I wanted to sample the Thunder.


Thanks for your response!

[TrophyTroutTyler]

Snus and dip are 98% more "safer" then cigarettes as far as cancer goes. Oral cancer is more likely in smokers then smokeless users but still have a chance of getting it of course. As long as you brush your teeth, gums, cheeks, tongue you should be more fine from it. Even though you shouldn't exactly worry about it if your gonna dip or have snus. Make sure you do get dental check-ups to to make sure things are going ok. Pouches help if your mouth was getting sore or you can take a break for a week or two perhaps.

[dman21]

I have been purchasing most of my snus from a cigar shop here in Maryland.
I wanted to try the Thunder frost but I notice that getsnus.com doesn't have Maryland listed as a shipping location?
Since it is located in Pennsylvania, I thought it would be easy on the shipping.

Does anyone here live in Maryland and can tell me where to order from where the shipping is not 30 bucks or higher.
Or is there a way to order from getsnus.com if you live in Maryland.

The only available snus I have found in Maryland cigar stores, is General.
I wanted to sample the Thunder.


Thanks for your response!

Kinda a late reply, but I would suggest sending Premium Parrots a PM, I'm sure he can help you out. I know he has Thunder in stock. Once I get moved into my apartment and get that sorted out, I also intend on ordering from him. I too live in a state where Northerner doesn't ship to. The only place locally that carries Swedish snus charges $8/can for General. Not sure how much he charges yet, but I'm sure it won't cost $8 for one freaking tin.

[phantom]

I have not dipped in about 10 years. That was what I liked, but I was a casual dipper.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a more than stressful day, but a depressing one at that.

I decided to pick up a tin of Camel Frost.

Since then I have reignited an infatuation that has lead to snus.

I have since purchased the more gourmet pure General Mint and Wintergreen.

As I continue to be interested in this, especially about the purity, I am still concerned about the oral cancer rates if they exist.

I work in the dental profession which is sort of taboo for someone like me to snus, but it alleviates stress.

I just know the oral cavity is really vascular and oral cancer is dangerous because it spreads so quickly.


Just wondering if there has been ongoing and large studies yielding hopefully negative oral cancer results from Snus users over time?


The problem is, I really like it but don't want to do myself in too quickly.


Incidentally, I am snusing General WinterGreen right now.


Any sincere responses would be greatly appreciated.

here is some pretty good info. http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/

[whalen]

I have been purchasing most of my snus from a cigar shop here in Maryland.
I wanted to try the Thunder frost but I notice that getsnus.com doesn't have Maryland listed as a shipping location?
Since it is located in Pennsylvania, I thought it would be easy on the shipping.

Does anyone here live in Maryland and can tell me where to order from where the shipping is not 30 bucks or higher.
Or is there a way to order from getsnus.com if you live in Maryland.

The only available snus I have found in Maryland cigar stores, is General.
I wanted to sample the Thunder.


Thanks for your response!

OK snustocope, better sit down, no US source will ship to Maryland. You are prohibited from purchasing tobacco products by internet, mail, or phone. You can thank The Maryland State Government for taking away that basic right. Tell Governor Omalley Whalen said "Hey"!

PP is your man now! Or your friends in Sweden, but the UPS cartel is going to Butt rape you a little first! PM PP!

I sadly live in Maryland.

[dman21]

OK snustocope, better sit down, no US source will ship to Maryland. You are prohibited from purchasing tobacco products by internet, mail, or phone. You can thank The Maryland State Government for taking away that basic right. Tell Governor Omalley Whalen said "Hey"!

PP is your man now! Or your friends in Sweden, but the UPS cartel is going to Butt rape you a little first! PM PP!

I sadly live in Maryland.

Is PP your primary source or do you have other places you order from as well? There's several snuses I want to try that PP doesn't have and I don't want to order a half roll or roll of something I end up not liking.

[whalen]

Is PP your primary source or do you have other places you order from as well? There's several snuses I want to try that PP doesn't have and I don't want to order a half roll or roll of something I end up not liking.

I swim out past the 200 mile limit and place my order in a bottle!

I have my sources, Mainly the great ass bunch of fellow snuson members who go the extra mile to help people out! I also live less than a 1000 feet from West By god Virginia, where I have some of the greatest friends in the world. And from what I understand, ordering direct from buysnus and snuscentral will not involve any repercussions, not that I would actually try that!

I have ordered from PP, he is great! But in my case he puts all kinds of disturbing perverted crap in my boxes, then calls me and asks me what I am wearing! He made me bark like a dog for some extra cans of extreme once too! But he only digs old guy's apparently, so you should be fine! Just tell him Chad sent you, and he will behave!

And my pre- Pact stash continues to offer up unubtanium snus that can be bartered for other rare snus.