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  • AussieSnuser
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 32

    #16
    The regulations for e-liquids is a little more vague.This is from the Aussie Customs website -

    Can I import electronic cigarettes into Australia?

    E-Cigarettes are comprised of an atomiser, battery and cartridge that may or may not contain a mixture of liquid nicotine and propylene glycol or polyethylene glycol. These forms of glycol are commonly used in pharmaceutical formulations and are not controlled.

    Liquid nicotine, is scheduled as a 'Schedule 7 Poison' under the Standard for the Uniform Scheduling of Medicines and Poisons (SUSMP). As such, it is considered a substance with a potential for causing harm which requires special precautions in manufacture, handling or use. Other substances listed in Schedule 7 include chlorine and arsenic. The listing of a poison in Schedule 7 does not usually justify an import prohibition.

    The Department of Health and Ageing (DoHA) is responsible for the government policy on such issues and advised that all States and Territories have domestic controls on the sale of these products and they are prohibited for commercial purposes.

    E-cigarettes (and/or their components) are not prohibited imports under Customs law. However, they may be subject to control under the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989 if the packaging makes a claim about any form of therapeutic benefit.

    If E-Cigarettes are detected at the border appearing to make a therapeutic claim, the goods may be referred to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA). The TGA will advise whether further action is warranted, whether any claims made are classed as therapeutic, and whether seizure is appropriate under their Act.

    If no therapeutic claim is made, or the TGA determines that no action is warranted, the goods are released, as they are not controlled on importation.

    The onus is on the purchaser of goods from offshore websites to ensure that any goods they purchase are legal to import and possess under Commonwealth and State and Territory laws.

    Goods of this nature are not tobacco or tobacco products, and therefore are not subject to duty or GST if the Customs value is at or below the low value goods threshold of A$1,000.

    Contact Details
    Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)
    Phone: 1800 020 653 or 02 6232 8444
    Email: info@tga.gov.au
    Website: www.tga.gov.au

    http://customs.gov.au/faq/AlcoholCigTobacco2.asp modified: 23 September, 2013 9:45 AM
    Last edited by AussieSnuser; 23-10-13, 03:03 PM.

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    • AussieSnuser
      Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 32

      #17
      Cheap tailor mades (as in poor quality) average out at around 50 cents per smoke so if you buy a pack of 25 you're looking at around AU$12,00.
      Roll your own tobaccos average at around AU$23.00 - 25.00 and depending on where you buy them they can sometimes hit you for closer to AU$30.00 for a 30g pack.
      A 50g pack of tobacco will cost you around AU$38.00 - 40.00 and again depending on where you purchase you may not get much change from $50.00.
      This is just a rough guideline of costs.Our government has been increasing the costs on a fairly regular basis with the reasoning being that hitting smokers harder will encourage them to give up.I doubt that many smokers buy that argument though.

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      • Skell18
        Member
        • May 2012
        • 7067

        #18
        Originally posted by AussieSnuser View Post
        Cheap tailor mades (as in poor quality) average out at around 50 cents per smoke so if you buy a pack of 25 you're looking at around AU$12,00.
        Roll your own tobaccos average at around AU$23.00 - 25.00 and depending on where you buy them they can sometimes hit you for closer to AU$30.00 for a 30g pack.
        A 50g pack of tobacco will cost you around AU$38.00 - 40.00 and again depending on where you purchase you may not get much change from $50.00.
        This is just a rough guideline of costs.Our government has been increasing the costs on a fairly regular basis with the reasoning being that hitting smokers harder will encourage them to give up.I doubt that many smokers buy that argument though.
        Your cigarettes and tobacco are still cheaper than the UK, here you would be looking at AU$16 - 25 a pack of 20.

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        • trebli
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 797

          #19
          ^^ Gosh, I had no idea it was that high in Australia. You can still get almost any brand name for 5-6 USD where I live.


          The last cigs I bought were $24.99 a carton in 2007 (200 cigs).

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          • AussieSnuser
            Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 32

            #20
            So UK prices are even higher?I'm glad I don't smoke any more.Even when I did I couldn't afford to buy tailor mades and that was kind of a blessing because as well as getting better value in a pack of rollie tobacco the quality was a lot better.
            Aussie customs are hard to figure,though.Out of about 35 orders I've had 3 opened and inspected by customs.All 3 orders happened to consist of 2 cans of los and yet I haven't been asked to pay any extra duties.
            Usually,orders arrive here in about 7 - 15 days.If orders take longer I can usually be certain that they are being inspected.I have 3 cans of Onyx which are well overdue.They will either arrive with a big red sticker stating that they have been opened,or I'll receive a letter requesting ransom.I don't pay ransom.
            The sad thing is that when they do stop an order we no longer have the allowable 50g grace.They tax the whole order.I don't understand how they figure this is fair.
            But,I'm not here complaining.My freezer is well stocked.

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            • Skell18
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 7067

              #21
              Originally posted by AussieSnuser View Post
              So UK prices are even higher?I'm glad I don't smoke any more.Even when I did I couldn't afford to buy tailor mades and that was kind of a blessing because as well as getting better value in a pack of rollie tobacco the quality was a lot better.
              Aussie customs are hard to figure,though.Out of about 35 orders I've had 3 opened and inspected by customs.All 3 orders happened to consist of 2 cans of los and yet I haven't been asked to pay any extra duties.
              Usually,orders arrive here in about 7 - 15 days.If orders take longer I can usually be certain that they are being inspected.I have 3 cans of Onyx which are well overdue.They will either arrive with a big red sticker stating that they have been opened,or I'll receive a letter requesting ransom.I don't pay ransom.
              The sad thing is that when they do stop an order we no longer have the allowable 50g grace.They tax the whole order.I don't understand how they figure this is fair.
              But,I'm not here complaining.My freezer is well stocked.
              Yup, welcome to rip off Britain! Rollies are a bit impec here but I went through a period of around 6 months on rollies just as I finished uni before I started law school, could get 30 out of a 12.5g pouch, 60 - 70 from a 25g pouch so it was cheaper, then again back then 20 tabs cost about £3 - 4 more than double that now!

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              • squeezyjohn
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2497

                #22
                I'm glad I don't smoke store bought cigarettes anymore as well.

                But I don't believe that in our country the taxes on cigs are ridiculous. I want people to stop smoking - it's a ridiculously dangerous thing to do. And because we have the national health service here the cost of smoking to the taxpayer through healthcare for those who have smoked is sky high! It would be nice if smoking taxes were ringfenced and only used to treat smoking related diseases ... and once that runs out you cut the care to those patients ... that would make sure the cost of cigarettes truly represented the cost to society. My only addition would be that I'd like to see the companies that are peddling these death-sticks taxed on their profits too to make it a true tax on tobacco - not just a tax on the poor who often smoke more for other reasons.

                Snus on the other hand is a different matter. According to all the available studies, snus is not much more of a risk factor than drinking coffee. Governments should look at it in a cold, unemotional way - and not be swayed by their natural prejudice against all tobacco because of the link with the dangers of smoking. It would save the taxpayer a lot of money in the long run if they were level-headed about it all.
                Squeezyjohn

                Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                • trebli
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 797

                  #23
                  Squeezy, I've heard that smokers actually cost society less in healthcare cost. Did you ever hear that?

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                  • spinyeel
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 175

                    #24
                    I've only had 2 small parcels held for ransom,in 3 years.
                    Didn't pay it and nor will I ever. Australia is an Anti-Tobacco Nazi's paradise these days.

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