I don't want to sound like a braggart; or toot my own horn. But after a couple practice runs with Roda, P.Classic Blue, Goteborgs and Probe, I'm doing well. This is much more gratifying than using the Prismaster, and I'm convinced that the natural oils on the hands help keep things together better. I've noticed with handbaked prillas, extraction is much easier and the pris seems to hold form longer. I've been kind of using Zero's video method for initial shape then lots of fingertip and heel of the hand to kind of clean it up. Thanks for all the tips guys! 
and yes, that is the belly of a year of inactivity and couch-time, due to pulmonary problems, no doubt exacerbated by years of smoking, which snus has enabled me to quit 100%


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