Using American Snuff like Los Snus

[Allstar]

I've never used American snuff, but i've seen some friends dip it. Skoal or Copenhagen...

It is meant for the lower lip, but can you eg. use an Icetool/handbaking to pack it and use the stuff like los snus?

[chainsnuser]

Check another newbie's thread on the topic: http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=2862 . I am crazy enough myself to upper-lip Cope Snuff and some of the more experienced users are giving valuable tips in the thread.

Cheers!

[cocsp2002]

I've been known to upper lip some dip from time to time, like when I need to be more discreet; but generally, dip is a lower lip deal for me. There's something distinctly masculine about the feeling of a dip in your lower lip, and let's be honest, it's just cooler. My friends and I at work have competitions to see who can pop the can the loudest, or with their off hand, or in any other different ways. Dipping is kind of a social habit around here. People all share around what they're carrying that day, and talk about which is best and so on. Anyway, dip is a fun thing to explore, especially for the EU types who really don't have much experience with it, but for me, snus is my home. I much prefer it to dip.

[chainsnuser]

Anyway, dip is a fun thing to explore, especially for the EU types who really don't have much experience with it, but for me, snus is my home. I much prefer it to dip.

Like snus is for US types?

Besides of that, yeah, I also still prefer snus. If I'd run out of snus, I'd use European chewing tobacco first, then European nasal snuff, then cigars, then cigarettes, then dip, then any other natural source of nicotine (unknown to me at the moment), then (really only if anything else goes wrong) nicotine-gums or any other crap from the drug-store!

The simple reason for that is that dip is quite good in the nicotine-delivery, but much harsher on the stomach and the throat than all other nicotine-sources, that I know.

Besides of that, I still think that (from a logical standpoint) to use dip is much better than to smoke, but I now understand the sentiments of our American forum-members. Snus is really so much better than anything else in the "nicotine-delivery-department", that the only question is, why the stuff is still so much unknown to a wider public, outside of Sweden.

Cheers!

[cocsp2002]

Yes, like snus for we US types.

I think you're right. The rough cut of American long cut dip is also very hard on the gums. I noticed clear gum recession after my first 8 months of dipping. OTOH, I know people who dipped for 15 years with no obvious effects, but that's beside the point.

I agree that snus is probably the best way to bring the Vitamin N into the body, and it is a wonder that it hasn't become popular in other parts of the world; in fact, just the opposite. The EU says it's too dangerous to be sold to the general public! (That's BS, by the way, but hey, that's how it goes sometimes) Americans turn their noses up at snus because they're indoctrinated into the school of "all tobacco is bad", or at minimum, "chewing tobacco will cause you to get mouth cancer". Also, American smokeless users are fiercely loyal to their brands; especially Copenhagen users. (I think this is because it tastes so bad that they believe if they personally don't keep buying it, that the company will go out of business and the rest of the Cope dippers will come after them)

Anyway, this is turning into kind of a rant, so I'll cut short. A friend of my wife's decided to quit smoking on the patch and in the "support class" she got in the deal, they told her that 91% of smokeless users were diagnosed with mouth cancer. I nearly lost my mind.

[toekuttr]

Whaoh....91%? That's funny, I've been dipping for almost 30 years with no ill effects.....(massive nicotine addiction aside). Jeez, half the kid's I grew up with dipped, actually smoking was somewhat frowned upon (everyone seemed to get over that though). Noone I know ever had ill effects except for the addiction and loss of that little thingy in mid lower lip (gotta look that up).....knock wood.

It's silly statistics like this that ruin their credibility and make me, for one, wanna dip and smoke even more! They do the same shit with addicts and alcoholics, making up numbers to make the task too scary to even try without "their help" whether Pharma or whatever else.

91% though, that's a new one, never heard that one before. I guess that was concluded with their study that indicated a single breath of SHS can cause serious life threatening consequences.

[sentry103]

I don't see why you can't use either in any lip you choose. When I use loose snus I bottom lip it. No problems if it's well baked. Dip can be upper lipped too.. no big deal.

[ponysoprano]

i use lös upper lip, and I'm now frequently dipping Grizzly snuff, which is just like Redman fine cut natural, but cheaper and slightly better tasting IMO, I upper lip all that stuff because it's a bit more discreet, and I don't feel like Cletus the slack jawed white trash yokel like I do when I lower lip tobacco

[burningcow422]

Upper lipping american dip won't make a difference. Did a few times just fine. Never rolled it up or made a pris though but that's because I didn't know what a pris was until recently ha. You can pack a monster lip with the bottom though. I personally think dip is meant for the bottom.

[bowlinginkc]

Newest snus advocate

Last year i attempted to quit smoking (cigarettes) and began using american dip (grizzly wintergreen pouches) in my upperlip. Needless to say my attempt failed and i was left with two habits. After less than a year I began to lack saliva and could see that my lower jaw gums had began to recede (im guessing from constantly spitting?). I recently decided to try to quit smoking again, somewhat due to the FREEZING COLD weather that is creeping into the crack of my ass but mainly because Ive now been smoking for ten years (im 24, do the math) and am beginning to feel pretty unhealthy. I use the hippie lettuce daily and i'm sure it doesn't help the tar level in my lungs. While combing the internet for nicotine alternatives I stumbled upon swedish snus and the rest is history. It has only been a couple days and I really think I can quit smoking with the help of snus, has anyone else been in my position? What are some of the problems you faced? Any tips on what to do when I get the desire for a smoke rather than a snus?