Another newbie here!

**sagedil** · 12-05-09, 08:30 PM

Welcome to Snuson ODurren, you have found the right place.

First, let me answer your specific questions, then some further thoughts.

When I first started using snus 2+ years ago, as a 2 pack a day smoker, I used almost exclusively strong. Maybe for a couple of months before I started using more regular. Great strong snus, Nick & Johnny is a must, I find Skruff to be just a bit much. I think both the Thunder and Odens, which are relatively new to be the greatest snus ever made. Although it is even higher in nicotine than the Skruff, it hits much more slowly and lasts forever. Be careful with the Offroad strong, Offroad is a Danish company, their snus has a strange, sometimes offputting taste.

I just bought an Icetool. Folks here know I am the portions king, have never before been able to get into los. But now, am making another attempt. The Icettol is super nice for los, makes the perfect pris. Necessary, of course not. And probably wise to wait a bit to make sure you will use it enough to make an Icetool make sense. A cheap prismaster will do the trick, but not nearly as good as an Icetool. If you do decide to get one, you won't be disappointed. But since you are comfortable handbaking, don't feel like you *must*

Snus is even more regulated in Sweden than any tobacco product here. Swedish regulations require that snus meets food safety rules.

Now some thoughts. Don't even stress for a moment about "quitting" cigarettes. I tell this story to every new person that comes here. I started using snus, not to quit the cigs, but just to allow me not have to leave the sales floor I was managing as often as I was. Really didn't plan on quitting. But funny thing just happened. I liked the snus, started using it more and more, stopped smoking as much. Finally, after about a month, I simply quit buying cigarettes. And as I discovered how much money the snus was saving me, I just never wanted to go back.

The snus will work it's magic, just sit back and enjoy. If you feel like a cigarette, have one. I still have one every month or so, but now, it is only because I want to, not because I need to

And again, welcome.

**ODurren** · 12-05-09, 08:58 PM

I work at a plant that pretty much has to be monitored 24/7. But lately I've been noticing that its wonderful when I'm around, but it misses me too much when I go out for a cigarette and causes a bit of a fit. I will, with the utmost honesty, say that as far as now is concerned "quitting" anything is something I just don't do. Unfortunately that applies to cigarettes as well. However these past few weeks I've actually been able to leave my packs of cigarettes in my work locker and, if anything, take just one cigarette home for the ride home or save it for my weekend. The American chew was my way of staying in the office just a little bit longer. But if those desks could talk, they'd seriously yell at me for all the spit cans I've spilt and my bottom lip I know would be less forgiving.

As mentioned, so far i've been pretty damn good with it. As far as keeping a mindset of "I'M GOING TO QUIT!!!", nah. But if it happens it happens and I know my lungs would be that much happier. But I will say that instantly switching from American Spirit full flavored for Ultra Lights was a nice relief.

I'm really enjoying the Claq Qui right now. Northerer is/was hosting some thingy where if you buy a can you're entered in a drawing for stuff so I figured "why not!". And my next try will be the GrovSnus.

**HK11** · 12-05-09, 09:13 PM

Im pretty much in the same boat as you. And I havent smoked a cigarette in a couple of days. Didnt really plan on quitting and even have some but after a while I just started fiending for snus.

I dunno why but I love the strong ones best. At first I didnt really like swedish snus, but I had bought a 10 pack and after a few days I liked it better, and the last few days I just love everything. The taste, smell, nic delivery, all of it.

The N&J Strong are good, the Skruf Sterk im in love with and have more on the way, general is tasty too (even thought I totally hated it at first). The thing that really got me hooked was when I tried a Skruf Sterk instead of a cigarette with a big cup of coffee in the AM. God I love that.

**sagedil** · 12-05-09, 10:17 PM

That's typical HK11, the snus just slowly takes over your soul. And
ODurren, you and me were in the exact same boat. I could leave, but felt better not having to. And slowly, but surely, I just came to love the nicotine delivery from snus far better than what I ever got from cigarettes.

But the kicker was money. 2+ packs a day were costing me over $50 a week. I cut my tobacco spending by 70% by just using snus. As poor as I was back then, that was huge for me. I typically spend between $100 - $120 on snus every other month now, another $20 on snuff every 3 months or so.

**ODurren** · 12-05-09, 11:26 PM

HK11: ugh don't get me started on my morning coffee. Some habits definitely don't die as quick as others. My co-workers agree that its best for everyone that I drive an hour to and from work because I'm grumpy as hell during the first 20 minutes until it both the caffeine and nicotine from snus kick in. So by the time I get to work I'm half way manageable. :-D

sagedil: Lets... not talk about money :-D. American Spirits around here were usually around 60 bucks a carton. 2 packs a day and then still not considering the weekend. Sometimes bought two cartons a week. Tube of Copenhagen was around... 30-50 bucks for a week and a half... ugh. My first order of 6 cans of snus was a think 20 bucks and that lasted me lil more than a week. (I was also kinda in a hurry to try the other flavors, I KNOW I can stretch it alot longer) and in that bought a pack of Newports in that week. so around 25. My second (current) order I bought a 5 pack of General Extra Sterk and a couple randoms. I made a small mistake and UPS'd it racking me up an additional 25 bucks (but I was running a lil low and the quickness payed off. 2 pouches by the time UPS rolled up) and that was around. 50-60 bucks that'll probably last me 2-3 weeks, perhaps?

But regardless, quit nicotine? hell no I love the stuff too much! Alternatives for safer intake of nicotine? hell yes! A cigarette every so often? hell yeah, why not?!?! Now that I switched to snus, I am comfortable giving up the dip AS SOON as I get used to the unique flavors and the "one can" that I really enjoy.

**sagedil** · 12-05-09, 11:53 PM

Yes, no need for UPS. Invest some of that money you were gonna spend and build up your supply of snus. I typically have anywhere between 40 - 80 tins in my freezer at any point, the lowest I will ever be is 20 when I re-order. One of my greatest joys is opening my freezer, seeing my stash, and standing there for 10 minutes trying to decide what snus I want that day. Have you seen the pictures of snus refrigerators in Sweden, my freezer isn't that far off. :lol: :lol:

And ODurren, I think I may be about to become your best friend, as I will let you in on a secret that will change your life!!!

Elyxr Power snus

It tastes like a**, I promise, but over time, you will learn to almost like it. But it is one of the most magical things I have ever tried and now is the cornerstone of my snus life. I will NEVER be without it. I pop an Elyxr in as I get up and hit the shower. by the time I am done with my shower, I am starting to feel normal. By the time I leave the house, I feel great, regardless of how little sleep I have gotten. I ride a motorcycle to work, and simply can't afford to wake up as I go.

I was really the first person here on Snuson to fully embrace Elyxr. many folks have never tried it, but most who finally listened to me are happy converts. At least give it a try. Again, the financials speak for themselves. One Elyxr equals a cup of coffee and costs like $0.05 per. I still love my coffee, my first coffee when I get to work is always sublime. And I go out to one of several cafe's at least 4 nights a week to get good coffee. but Elyxr enables me to at least begin my day on a decent footing.

And Elyxr is also a strong snus, so get my jolt of nicotine along with the caffeine and taurine
Try it at least, I promise, you won't be disappointed.

**Badfish74** · 13-05-09, 12:47 AM

It's funny that u mention Elixyr...I personally can't have caffeine as it gives me heart palpitations, but I put a can of it on my next order for my wife to try. Caffeine really hypes her up, and I can't wait to watch her run around like a chipmunk on crack! And welcome to the the forum ODurren!

**rickcharles606** · 13-05-09, 09:23 AM

ODurren, welcome to the site and Swedish snus. It seems that you've found your way around quite well, and had your questions answered. So again, welcome and if you have any other questions, just ask.

**RobsanX** · 13-05-09, 03:36 PM

Welcome to the forums! I quit smoking with snus, but I was ready to quit.

**ODurren** · 13-05-09, 03:44 PM

Elyxr Power snus

I was thinking about it mainly for drive to work anyways, actually. I saw the reviews about the taste and kinda steered clear. But then I just realized, "HEY! My mouth tastes like a** anyways when I wake up! Shouldn't be a problem!" And since I brush my teeth when I get to work it shouldn't be any harm when the morning coffee is gone. I've noticed that regardless of how good any snus is in the middle of the afternoon it still sends a mild chill down my spine when I pop my first of the morning. So if it tastes bad in the morning then that just calls for a 24Oz cup of joe to wash it down instead of a 16!

I'll try a can or two out with a completely unbiased mindset. If anything it sounds like me "Keep the can in the truck" kinda snus for morning specifically. And that would be a good thing.

Thanks again for the info and well wishing.

**sagedil** · 13-05-09, 05:54 PM

It doesn't taste THAT bad, but it definitely taste off when you are unused to it. The only reason I make a point of stressing it tastes like a** is because we always get these posts from newbies who got the Elyxr without knowing what it was, and then come here posting about how terrible it is here.

Do a search on Elyxr here and my nym, and you will see the probably 100 posts I have done emphasizing that Elyxr isn't like other snus, it's not something you just use for the heck of it, it is it's functionality that matters. Elyxr will just make you feel like a million bucks. it is better than anything I have ever used, and I started using Energy drinks as soon as Red Bull hit the market.

From what you described, i think it will be perfect for you. If you do try it, please let me know what you think

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