Using snus to quit smoking

[Paladinx]

I been using snus on and off, trying to replace smoking. not having that great of results. Need some help. Something about snus nicotine is not as satisfying as a cigarette. I can snus all day and still i will end up craving a cig pretty bad, and once i give in and have a cig, its like my mood gets so much brighter. There seems to be something else in cigs that gives you a special feeling compared to anything else.

Maybe im not getting enough nicotine? I use basic snus, general, Roda locket, ettan, most of the reg strength stuff. I use loose and sometimes regular portions. What I do is, if i put a snus in at say five ocock at night, ill keep it in my lip till around 520/5:30. Then i spit the snus out and wont have another till around 630. So i try to wait about an hour after i spit out my snus to have another. I do this because i was worried about getting too much nicotine. Anyone have any suggestions?

regards

[Ozmodius]

Some suggestions that might help....

1. Keep it in at least an hour.

2. Use stronger nic snus.

3. Dont worry about how much nic you get, if you crave a smoke bad, you have'nt used enough snus.

4. Buy an E-cig to help make the transition. You can get them dirt cheap here ->http://www.healthcabin.net I recomend the joye 510 PPC kit and a joye 510 regular kit to start with, and two 30ml bottles of RY4 24mg/ml liquid.

The e-cig will help take care of that "Hand to mouth", "smoke visual", "throat feel", and nicotine spike that cigs give.

The e-cig/snus method worked for me... and now I hardly use the ecig and i've only been smoke free for about a week and a half.

When my order of real snus comes in (i've been using american camel snus) I'm pretty sure i'll drop the e-cig as an every day thing and keep it as a social/drinking thing.

Disclaimer
Your experience may be different.

I was a "Pack a Day" marlboro red man.

Good Luck!

[Paladinx]

Thanks man for the tips and info. I have one of those electronic cigarettes, the dse901 i think its called. I have not really used it that much to be honest. I went to the e-cigarette forum and i read about all the unknowns and weird side effects people have been getting, plus a lot of the stuff comes from china. It kind of turned me off a bit. I guess im a pssy, or a hypocrite im not sure. I just never felt comfortable smoking it. I been debating a lot whether i should give it a fair try and just use it. plus my 901 does not work all that great. have to s uck like a damn cheap prostitute to get the smoke out of the thing.


What do u think about the health aspects of the device? have u had any negative side effects? or worry about the pg at all etc? Thanks for the suggestions. That site seems cheap. do you frequent the e-cigarette forum at all?

lol

regards

[Anthony]

3. Dont worry about how much nic you get, if you crave a smoke bad, you have'nt used enough snus.

I think this is key.

Also, it takes a few months to lose the cravings completely. I don't think you'll have 0 cravings any time soon, but they do fade.

Keep working at it.

[sagedil]

How long have you been using snus????


Again, I never really intended to quit, it just sort of happened, but it was at least a month to 6 weeks of me using both. Slowly more snus and less cigarettes. Then one day, I stopped buying cigarettes.

BUT....

As soon as I was not smoking at all, I had to switch over to using nothing but strong for a few months. At about month 4, I switched back to regular with still a strong or two, or three, when i felt the need.

So, besides all the above very good advice, one last piece....

Stop worrying about it, stop thinking about it, smoke when you want, snus when you want. I promise, the snus WILL win. Just need to give it time. And start chain snusing immediately. You are letting the nicotine need grow. Stop it. Snus all day, every day, never let yourself be without one. Will make the body just not want a cigertette, I promise.

[Ozmodius]

How long have you been using snus????
Stop worrying about it, stop thinking about it, smoke when you want, snus when you want. I promise, the snus WILL win. Just need to give it time. And start chain snusing immediately. You are letting the nicotine need grow. Stop it. Snus all day, every day, never let yourself be without one. Will make the body just not want a cigertette, I promise.

That's the Ticket.

As far as E-cigs go... yea I totally trust them, well, more than I trust analog cigs.

97.5% is Propalyne Glycol(sp), 2.4% Nicotine, and .1% food grade flavoring.*

PG is used in asthma inhalers which have been prescribed and used without ill affects for decades. Nicotine .. well there's plenty of research there. and food grade flavoring has got to be safer than 4000 other chemicals in cig smoke.

I can breath better, and have an overall sense of well-being since i've stopped smoking. Of course that could be the constant level of vitamin N i get from snus too.

*This is e-liquid that I buy from HealthCabin.net which is made by Dekang. 90% of e-liquid is made by Dekang and is far all intents and purposes the safest source.

[Paladinx]

even better than johnsons creek? I heard they make theirs in america.

thanks guys for all the info.

[Ozmodius]

No e-liqud is made in the USA. They buy unflavored from china and make their own flavors.

[justintempler]

Re: Using snus to quit smoking

Maybe im not getting enough nicotine? I use basic snus, general, Roda locket, ettan, most of the reg strength stuff. I use loose and sometimes regular portions. What I do is, if i put a snus in at say five ocock at night, ill keep it in my lip till around 520/5:30. Then i spit the snus out and wont have another till around 630. So i try to wait about an hour after i spit out my snus to have another. I do this because i was worried about getting too much nicotine. Anyone have any suggestions?

regards

You are not getting enough nicotine.

Link - Nicotine uptake from snus

...Only 10-20 % of the nicotine present in a pinch of snus is absorbed via the mucous membrane and reaches the systemic circulation. This means that only 1-2 mg of nicotine is absorbed into the blood from a one gram pinch containing ca 10 mg of nicotine...

A Marlboro cigarette gives you somewere between 1.7-1.9 mg nicotine.

From a regular portion with 8 mg of nicotine, you'll get roughly only .8-1.6 mg nicotine. If you leave it in for 2 hours you might get lucky and get 30% (2.4 mg)

You're so worried about getting too much nicotine that you are underdosing and then wondering why you still crave cigarettes.

[Paladinx]

Thanks man thats very interesting and useful info!

About jcreek. I guess they lied than lol. They say they get and create everything within the united states. Maybe they are full of crap

[Paladinx]

"From a regular portion with 8 mg of nicotine, you'll get roughly only .8-1.6 mg nicotine. "

So i am guessing that figure is for using the snus for roughly 30 minutes. That seems the standard time to use it for, although I think most use it for longer. that is interesting, because if i have 3 cigarettes in 30 minutes, then im probably getting a lot more nicotine, at least in the short term. So you have to keep smoking to maintain that spike. interesting.

I seen charts that compare snus and 1 cigarette, Would be interesting to see a chart that shows overall nicotine from smoking more than one cig compared to a snuser. My guess is that one will be a bunch of high spikes, and if u take the average of that graph, thats probably what the snus user will look like.

[Ozmodius]

If they make their own, I'd like to know how they get pure nicotine to do it.... Right now only Medical and Scientific research labs can legaly obtain pure nicotine. You have to wear full hazmat gear to work with it, that is, if you don't want to die horribly.

I'm reasonably sure that they buy unflavored liquid and and mix their own flavors to add to it. Most do it your self people use LorAnn flavors. In this case they can claim to "make it themselves" and be mostly honest.

[TKsnuser]

I was smoking a pack a day - Winston Ultra Lights, started with Camel Mellow - did a little of both thoroughout the day, then found this site. Placed a few sample orders to get real snus and then gradually curtailed the smokes. I change up portion strengths / brands during the day and it works for me..... have been smoke free for 1.5 months.. and I don't miss the cigs at all now. yay!!

[justintempler]

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So i am guessing that figure is for using the snus for roughly 30 minutes.

I smoked for 38 years. Before I quit I was up to 2-3 packs a day of Marlboro Reds.

I chain snus. I average 2-3 hours per portion. 6-8 portions a day.
I quit 8 months ago. I might buy one "weekend pack" once a month, that's it.

[wadetheblade]

Good post, Im right there too. I tried swedish snus about two years ago and loved it. The girl I was with at the time smoked and I feel thats how I got sucked back in. Mainly smoke when I drink and in the morning and after meals. Anyway.... Once Camel snus came out (terrible) I remembered how much I enjoyed General and lucky strike two years ago. So now I am back on the snus. I still smoke a little but I feel the snus is winning the war. Being able to sit at my desk and work with snus is great.

P.S. Do you snus after sex? ha, ha