Great New Product For Storing Snus

[Rowsdower]

Hey guys. I picked up one of these yesterday at the grocery store for $9.99, and it is perfect for storing snus in the freezer. It comes with a couple of quart size bags, but you can buy the gallon size also. I can fit 9 cans in the gallon sized ones. The best part is the bags are reusable! The little vacuum is battery operated and the bags are standard ziploc type bags with a one-way valve for the vacuum.

If you see one of these in stores, I highly recommend you pick one up.

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp

[jqlynch]

Thanks for the tip! I might pick one of these up tonight and transfer from the gallon-sized Ziplocs I'm using presently...

[alex]

That is awesome!! How good is the vacuum and the seal? I was looking at vacuum sealers online and the price is through the F'ing roof for one with decent reviews, but this thing looks promising!

Kudos on an awesome find

[Rowsdower]

alex,

I think the vacuum and seal are definitely good enough! Seriously, after i sealed up 9 cans in a gallon bag (all cans laid flat) , that bag was as solid as a brick! And, as I said in my first post, you can resuse the bags, just open it up, take out the next can of snus, close the bag and reseal with the vacuum.

It may not be as good as the expensive models over the long term, time will tell i guess, but for 10 bucks plus the cost of a box of gallon size bags, (couple of bucks more), it's well worth it.

[RealmofOpeth]

So can snus get freezerburn?

Maybe that's why my various brands that are said by others to have certain flavors aren't showing them for me?
I keep about 5 cans in a zipper seal bag (which don't seal 100% worth a shit), then about 4 of those bags in a 2 gallon regular seal bag. I try to squeeze the air out mainly for space-saving...
I don't understand how vacuum pack prevents freezer burn. Also I would think with snus, the vacuum action might suck some of the moist air out of the can, drying the snus. probably not during the vacuum process...but since there is a difference of air pressure between inside the can and the bag, the air will eventually leak to the bag from the can, some way or another.

[jqlynch]

I picked one of these up today, and it works great. I got it more for space issues than anything else. No matter how hard I try, there's always a little air left in the ziploc freezer bags. A quart bag for this sealer holds about half a roll (5 cans) stacked, and now I have these mini-rolls that I just chuck in the freezer. Very nice product.

I would be interested in what longer-term snus users have to say about vacuum sealing and how it affects flavor in the long run, but I've seen it suggested in other posts. I think the important thing is that there isn't any further foreign moisture/air getting into the bags once they're sealed and vacuumed.

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[ringdoc]

I dont see how ya could go wrong with it, I have an expensive vacuume and use it all the time, the bags are kinda expensive, about 5 bucks a roll, and the only way you can reseal is to make a long bag and cut it open and reseal whats left, if you can reuse these bags and even if they dont take a real good vacuum, it is much better than nothing, freezer burn is in part from air/ and mosisture getting to the sealed product, eleminate the air and no freezer burn. looks like a good deal to me, and hey its a gadget, were men and its cheaper than an ice tool hahahah

[Rowsdower]

Thanks jqlynch, It's always nice to see another MST3K fan. I miss that show terribly. Are you familiar with Rifftrax? It's Mike and the gang riffing on current day movies, via mp3. You play the mp3 on a pc or mp3 player simultaneously with the dvd of the movie.

[Zero]

So can snus get freezerburn?
I don't understand how vacuum pack prevents freezer burn. Also I would think with snus, the vacuum action might suck some of the moist air out of the can, drying the snus. probably not during the vacuum process...but since there is a difference of air pressure between inside the can and the bag, the air will eventually leak to the bag from the can, some way or another.

Yeah, it can get freezerburn, but it takes a long time - sort of a year or more before it gets noticeable, depending on the temperature of the fridge. The vacuum sealing removes insulation betweet the tin and the bag wall and also helps keep the atmosphere constant. It has to do with temperature differences between the snus and the container wall as well as with the vapour pressure in the ambient atmosphere - a cold wall far away will pump moisture out of a warmer tin further from the cooling source and air leaking out of the ice box will continually drop the ambient vapour pressure below saturation. In a sealed box, the only way the vapour pressure can drop is if water/ice condenses out of the atmosphere in the bag onto the inside walls of the bag - that can only happen if the wall of the bag is colder than the snus (and thus would have a lower vapour pressure at the bag wall temperature compared to the snus temperature). This is why moisture doesn't condense on stuff in a room - only on things colder than the room.

To go a bit further - water only evaporates out of a cup because the vapour pressure in the room is less than saturation. If you went into a sealed box and kept the temperature of everything constant then water would only evaporate out of the cup until the concentration of moisture in the air reached saturation, then it would stop. If you cooled the walls of the box, though, then water would start to condense out of the air onto the walls and water would start to evaporate out of the cup again. Same in the freezer. The aim is to keep the container and the snus at the same temperature and sealed so that the water won't be pumped out by dry air or by a colder object than the snus. :idea:

[jqlynch]

Checking it out right now. Thanks for the pointer!