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  • Mr. Snuffleupagus
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    • Dec 2008
    • 2781

    #16
    Originally posted by RRK
    Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
    The snusmaking kits I bought come with two packets of "NA 3 Carbonate". The instructions say to just use one unless you want strong nic.

    Like many said though, it's a combination of multiple things IMO.

    Here's another thread you might find usefull on this subject:
    http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=4729
    To bad they wont tell you which varieties of tobacco they use. I have read that there is a strain called rustica which is the closest thing to the original native american tobacco and has the highest nicotine content.
    They would probably tell you if you asked. Contact them, you might be surprised. The guy I dealt with at http://primafint.se/ was very knowledgeable about his kits.

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    • Mr. Snuffleupagus
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      • Dec 2008
      • 2781

      #17
      Originally posted by sheilalynn
      Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
      The snusmaking kits I bought come with two packets of "NA 3 Carbonate". The instructions say to just use one unless you want strong nic.

      Like many said though, it's a combination of multiple things IMO.

      Here's another thread you might find usefull on this subject:
      http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=4729
      I went to the one place that I've seen before that sells the snus kit, but it says that they're not shipping any at this time. Is there another place out there with them besides http://www.vikingasnus.se/index_en.html that has them?

      I actually do have tobacco seeds that I'm going to try growing next year just as a hobby type of thing to see if I can do it. Only so much you can grow on .17 acres in the 'burbs :P
      I ordered from http://primafint.se/

      The site is not in english. I contacted them through the website and set up the order via e-mail. Here's the thread:
      http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?t=5238

      One of the snus manufacturers (i think V2) has threatened to sell kits but I'm not sure when.

      I'll bet if somebody made it easy to get the kits in the US, they would sell. I would think you could store the tobacco unbaked for quit a long time in case of an apocalypse.

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      • RRK
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        • Sep 2009
        • 926

        #18
        I just did the calculation on rustica. I don't think it could be used for snus. The nicotine content is up to 9% which I think would be 90mg per gram. :shock: The more common tobacco strains have 1-3% which I guess would be 10-30mg per gram. Still sounds like a lot.

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        • sheilalynn
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          • May 2009
          • 1103

          #19
          Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
          I'll bet if somebody made it easy to get the kits in the US, they would sell. I would think you could store the tobacco unbaked for quit a long time in case of an apocalypse.
          Hmmm...maybe I should pass that idea along to Tom :P

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          • texasmade
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            • Jan 2009
            • 4159

            #20
            good idea

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            • digitalerik
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              • Aug 2008
              • 126

              #21
              every time i use my snus, tobacco gets their wings!

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              • sheilalynn
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                • May 2009
                • 1103

                #22
                Originally posted by texasmade
                good idea
                Done a half hour ago now :P

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                • texasmade
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                  • Jan 2009
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                  #23

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                  • RRK
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 926

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                    I ordered from http://primafint.se/
                    Whats the difference between the different tobaccos?

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                    • lxskllr
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 13435

                      #25
                      Originally posted by RRK
                      I just did the calculation on rustica. I don't think it could be used for snus. The nicotine content is up to 9% which I think would be 90mg per gram. :shock: The more common tobacco strains have 1-3% which I guess would be 10-30mg per gram. Still sounds like a lot.
                      You wouldn't use 100% Rustica. It would be part of a blend with milder tobaccos. Rustica may not even taste good. That's something you'd have to experiment with.

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                      • MojoQuestor
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                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2344

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lxskllr
                        Originally posted by RRK
                        I just did the calculation on rustica. I don't think it could be used for snus. The nicotine content is up to 9% which I think would be 90mg per gram. :shock: The more common tobacco strains have 1-3% which I guess would be 10-30mg per gram. Still sounds like a lot.
                        You wouldn't use 100% Rustica. It would be part of a blend with milder tobaccos. Rustica may not even taste good. That's something you'd have to experiment with.
                        I wonder how a tiny bit of perique would do in a snus?

                        Back when I was rolling, I had some D&R SJ Rimboche that was kind of beautiful. The dark strands of perique mixed in with the golden Virginia leaf looked gorgeous. It wasn't a terrible smoke, either, although all the D&R I tried missed for me for some reason.

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                        • lxskllr
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                          • Sep 2007
                          • 13435

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MojoQuestor

                          I wonder how a tiny bit of perique would do in a snus?

                          Back when I was rolling, I had some D&R SJ Rimboche that was kind of beautiful. The dark strands of perique mixed in with the golden Virginia leaf looked gorgeous. It wasn't a terrible smoke, either, although all the D&R I tried missed for me for some reason.
                          I used to get the American Spirit Black label RYO on occasion, which had some perique in it. It was a nice change, but a little rich for every day use, at least in cigarettes.

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                          • SnusoMatic
                            Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 507

                            #28
                            i am not an expert. i did some study at some point about tobacco, nic levels and making sterk. i never tried this but it seemed logical that it might work. normal tobacco leaf contains a fairly low level of nic. so how to fortify the nic level to make snus? first get regular leaf with a good level of nic and fortify with rustica. one would have to guess the nic level in the regular and rustica unless they had a lab. trial and error i guess. but when i was thinking about it i found Rustica leaf was hard to just go out and buy. the best solution i ever thought of besides growing it was buying rustica at a head shop. they may call them something else these days, head shop was what we called them years ago. some well stocked head shops sell rustica in small amounts. not sure how much one would have to buy to get some. i cant even remember why head shops sell it for. i guess people think they get high from smoking it, who knows. but it's nic level is massive compared to regular tobacco. when i saw the mention of rustica i just thought i would throw that in the 'pot' haha i crack myself up ahar ahar ahar

                            oh someone turned me onto a company that sells whole tobacco leaf by the kilo i think. cant order it on the net, it has to be ordered over the phone. i keep meaning to give making some homemade stark a try but just work too much.

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                            • RRK
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                              • Sep 2009
                              • 926

                              #29
                              Originally posted by lxskllr
                              Originally posted by MojoQuestor

                              I wonder how a tiny bit of perique would do in a snus?

                              Back when I was rolling, I had some D&R SJ Rimboche that was kind of beautiful. The dark strands of perique mixed in with the golden Virginia leaf looked gorgeous. It wasn't a terrible smoke, either, although all the D&R I tried missed for me for some reason.
                              I used to get the American Spirit Black label RYO on occasion, which had some perique in it. It was a nice change, but a little rich for every day use, at least in cigarettes.
                              What I like about the oden's is the dark, rich taste.

                              I think perique is generally air cured but is it possible to find it non fermented?

                              It seems like primafint.se sells a virginia/burley mix but I would like to get this richer tobacco flavor.

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                              • lxskllr
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                                • Sep 2007
                                • 13435

                                #30
                                Originally posted by RRK
                                I think perique is generally air cured but is it possible to find it non fermented?
                                I think it's fermented by definition. If I'm not mistaken, perique is made by packing tobacco in bourbon barrels where it then ferments. I'll look it up later, and see what the story is.

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