Lost Box-2010-Christi's apology/explanation

[Christi]

Last year a box was lost and it was my fault. I got very ill and handed the responsibility of mailing the box to my husband who then gave it to my sister. They did not get tracking after I asked them to do so. I spent 2 weeks after I got well trying to find the box with no luck. I was so embarrassed I decided not to show my face/or post here again.

I never found the box, it was mailed. I am SO VERY SORRY. I figure some of you think I just 'kept' the box, but I had been in at least 4 box passes by that point and mailed them out each time. So I had a good track record. I did NOT keep the box.

It took me a long time to decide if I wanted to post this or just feel like a black sheep and never return. But I still use snus and I miss the friendships I made here. I thought, what is the worst that can happen? Some of you may say nasty things to me and others may freely accept my sincere apology for not being the single person in charge of that box.

So, there you have it folks. I think it has been close to a full year since I have posted on here(other than in the chat which has only been once).

[Christi]

I felt just horrible. This was seriously my home away from home, and after that I felt like I couldn't come back. I got some really disturbing emails and PM's from folks after me who didn't get the box. I tried to find it and it was no use.

[chadizzy1]

It's not like you're the only one who ever lost a box pass - whenever tracking is not on them - they seem to routinely disappear.

Yeah, it happens.

It's kind of a new unspoken rule to put tracking on them. It makes it easier and safer it seems, and we've had a few successful passes since we started doing that.

[precious007]

I guess we should start a box pass in the E.U. now that snus is not that accessible anymore.

Is anyone interested, after we clarify the about the laws we can start a box pass

I'd start with 10 cans

Can anyone let me know how exactly it works please?

Basically you have 10 cans in the box and choose anything you like for .... 10 of your own cans?

[Christi]

Yeah, it happens.

It's kind of a new unspoken rule to put tracking on them. It makes it easier and safer it seems, and we've had a few successful passes since we started doing that.

Chad-I had been in 4 passes before the 'lost' box and all 4 had tracking...this one was sent by someone in my family who 'forgot' tracking. It was my fault but I was so sick and the box had been at my house so long I wanted to pass it on. I still feel bad. Glad it seems no one is too ticked off

[Mordred]

I guess you lost my Camel and Marlboro snus at the same time, right?

[chadizzy1]

Can anyone let me know how exactly it works please?

I think this is a great idea, EU snusers helping EU snusers.

2011 Update

A lot of new folks around, so I thought I'd share some info about SnusOn Box Passes. We've had more success with these this year, so I thought I'd share so the newbies to SnusOn can find out about this exciting opportunity. Mods - maybe we can sticky this thread?

What it is:

The Box Pass is a way to try out new things by members contributing various types of smokeless tobacco and shipping it around the country. Some Box Passes may have different themes such as a Noob Pass (which has a large variety and is geared towards new mbmers) or a Hell Pass (which is basically dumping all your unwanted shiznit and hoping it ends up with cj, since he likes that kinda stuff).

Participation
Open to members of SnusOn of legal age to purchase tobacco, usually a Box Pass accepts 10 names (to keep the snus fresh until it reaches the last member). Participation is on a first come, first serve basis. One person (usually the one who starts it, or the one who starts it selects a route master) and those involved mail their addresses to that person who in turn puts together an address list and puts it in the box.

Order
Usually the order is first come first serve, though it may be optional to go geographically, but that is up to the members/routemaster of the Box Pass itself.

The Snus
Snus is put into the box, sometimes nasal snuff, dip, or other forms of smokeless tobacco. Usually unopened cans are preferred, but some Box Passes will accept semi-open cans. The general rule is can for a can, take one, replace it with one. In Noob passes, usually a box is started with a lot of snus and sent out to newbies so it isn't required to replace exactly what you take. Those passes are designed to help those new to snus try it out.

Confirmation/Tracking
In the past, this wasn't a rule, and it's not required now, though recent members have opted to do this. Delivery Confirmation ensures that we know where the Box Pass is at all times. In the past we have had boxes stolen or lost (I can attest to this), so tracking/confirmation is a useful tool to ensure the Box Pass goes smoothly and without hang ups. Though not a requirement, it is a good idea to track/confirm your package [i]just in case[/b].

Method of shipping
To avoid shipping costs we ship via USPS for Box Passes. This is legal, as it is a person to person shipment. If it's a large pass such as a Noob Box, sometimes we opt for flat rate, but this can be up to $10 or more in shipping, so only do this if you have to ship a large box. Sometimes towards the end of a Box Pass flat rate is the only way it can be shipped as these can get rather full.

How long do we have to ship?
Usually a Box Pass should be turned around and shipped within 24 hours to keep the snus fresh.

Where do we ship?
Most of the Box Passes in SnusOn history have been kept in the US to keep it simple. Though a routemaster may opt to send it internationally, that is up to the routemaster/box starter at that time.

What does PACT say about mailing tobacco?
Section 3 of the PACT Act pertains to the Postal Service and
creates a new Section 1716E of Title 18, U.S. Code. Section 3 of the
PACT Act provides that, subject to certain exceptions, cigarettes,
including roll-your-own tobacco and smokeless tobacco are nonmailable.
Exceptions in the PACT Act permit the mailing of cigarettes and/or
smokeless tobacco in narrowly defined circumstances, as described
below.
Noncontiguous States: Intrastate shipments within Alaska
or Hawaii;
Business/Regulatory Purposes: Shipments transmitted
between verified and authorized tobacco industry businesses for
business purposes, or between such businesses and Federal or state
agencies for regulatory purposes;
Certain Individuals: Infrequent, lightweight shipments
mailed between adult individuals...

This part, Certain Individuals, is what would make it okay to mail tobacco individual to individual. As this is not something frequent that we do, and not a large amount, and it ships to adults. There is a weight limit which I believe equates to about 10 cans, and it is known that box passes can get over that, but walk the thin line so Box Passes are a grey area.

[Christi]

I guess you lost my Camel and Marlboro snus at the same time, right?

Excuse me?

[chadizzy1]

I lost my keys.

[Christi]

how do I make the replies go to my email like it used to? I have been to the settings and can't seem to figure it out, help chad.

[chadizzy1]

Haha, I don't understand the new SnusOn near as well as I understand the old one. I'm still figuring it out

[Mordred]

Excuse me?

I'll send you a PM.

[Christi]

I'll send you a PM.

Thank you very much.

[precious007]

I think this is a great idea, EU snusers helping EU snusers.

still waiting some clarification on the EU law

But I guess if it's up to 1KG then we can do a portion SNUS BOX pass since it's ligheter than the loose should be interesting.

Anyone interested?

:^)

[CreteCoater]

Thanks for telling us about your box Christi.