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  • f. bandersnatch
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 725

    #16
    Originally posted by StuKlu
    I don't think the usps rules will matter with box passes, we aren't a commercial enterprise, just sending stuff between friends.
    This is the way to go. Just put it in a box and ask the USPS to mail it.

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    • mrmynd
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 101

      #17
      is this still happening?

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      • asidrave
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 195

        #18
        I honestly forgot all about this. Anyone else wanna take charge of a box pass probably should open a new thread

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        • danielan
          Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1514

          #19
          Originally posted by f. bandersnatch View Post
          This is the way to go. Just put it in a box and ask the USPS to mail it.
          I'm paranoid...

          From PACT: PACT Link (PDF)

          SEC. 3. TREATMENT OF CIGARETTES AND SMOKELESS TOBACCO AS
          NONMAILABLE MATTER.

          ...

          ‘‘(d) ADDITIONAL PENALTIES.—In addition to any other fines
          and penalties under this title for violations of this section, any
          person violating this section shall be subject to an additional civil
          penalty in the amount equal to 10 times the retail value of the
          nonmailable cigarettes or smokeless tobacco, including all Federal,
          State, and local taxes.
          ‘‘(e) CRIMINAL PENALTY.—Whoever knowingly deposits for
          mailing or delivery, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail,
          according to the direction thereon, or at any place at which it
          is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed,
          anything that is nonmailable matter under this section shall be
          fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

          There only seems to be an exemption for <= 10 ounces.

          UPS is no better - at least officially...

          UPS Policy: http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res...s/tobacco.html

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          • texasmade
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 4159

            #20
            they wont find out. they rarely do.

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            • danielan
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1514

              #21
              Originally posted by texasmade View Post
              they wont find out. they rarely do.
              True, but totally not worth the risk to me.

              I'll use UPS as long as they will deliver, that's just a contractual issue between UPS and the vendor.

              But this is Federal law...

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              • danielan
                Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1514

                #22
                Originally posted by danielan View Post
                UPS is no better - at least officially...
                I take that back...

                General Restrictions and Prohibitions

                Shipper shall not tender to UPS any Tobacco Product Shipment that does not conform to the following general restrictions and prohibitions:

                1. UPS does not provide service for shipments of cigarettes to consumers.

                * For UPS's current terms, conditions, restrictions and prohibitions regarding Tobacco Product Shipments, and the version of Addendum A in effect at the time of shipping, see www.ups.com/tobacco at the time of shipping.

                2. UPS only accepts shipments of cigarettes for delivery to recipients who are licensed or otherwise authorized by applicable federal, state, provincial, or local law or regulation to receive deliveries of cigarettes .

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