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  • lxskllr
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    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #16
    Originally posted by precious007 View Post
    Yep, but that's a different story.



    Basically the sales tax is the same thing as VAT. That should be a percentage of the product's sale price - Tax per added value and I completely agree with that.

    But what they're doing is illegal, believe me.

    What they should do, and what the law actually says is to have the shelf price listed and additionally the total price that includes the sales tax (VAT)

    That way people can understand better what prices they practice.

    Am I right?
    Of course you're right, but has that ever stopped any government from doing what it wants? They may not specifically call something a sales tax, or VAT, but that doesn't change the fact of what it is. If they can say a bottle of milk is tax free, what'll stop them from saying snus is taxed at 300%?

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    • Joe234
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1948

      #17
      You all can read can't you? It's an obvious mistake as it doesn't add
      up.

      I think they took 6% of $1,000 instead of points which would
      be $60 and added that to your tax.

      Update:

      It says Charged in USD $51.82 so that's your cost.

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      • lxskllr
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 13435

        #18
        Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
        You all can read can't you? It's an obvious mistake as it doesn't add
        up.

        I think they took 6% of $1,000 instead of points which would
        be $60 and added that to your tax.
        That doesn't even work. The whole thing is dogshit wrong. Removing the roll, he didn't generate $34 in sales tax.

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        • Joe234
          Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1948

          #19
          Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
          That doesn't even work. The whole thing is dogshit wrong. Removing the roll, he didn't generate $34 in sales tax.

          It says Charged in USD $51.82 I think this is correct.
          That would be $16.87 in sales tax.

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          • lxskllr
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 13435

            #20
            Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
            It says Charged in USD $51.82 I think this is correct.
            That would be $16.87 in sales tax.
            I kind of glossed over the final amount charged as I was fixated on the tax. $51.82 is the amount of the snus with the tax added per their chart, but that doesn't include the shipping then. Where's the $14.77?

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            • precious007
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              • Sep 2010
              • 5885

              #21
              If they can say a bottle of milk is tax free, what'll stop them from saying snus is taxed at 300%?
              Can't have a sales tax of 300%. That's a tax set by the government.

              i.e Romania has one of the highest sales taxes world-wide and that's due to a high economical crisis these days. The sales tax (VAT) is 24% but it will never be 400%. lol that means every business out there would be bankrupt.

              It says Charged in USD $51.82 I think this is correct.
              That would be $16.87 in sales tax.
              Yeah that's a bug in their system but certainly the "Charge in USD" is the final price.

              But one thing is weird, don't they charge the tobacco tax if you live in the U.S ?

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              • Joe234
                Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1948

                #22
                Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                I kind of glossed over the final amount charged as I was fixated on the tax. $51.82 is the amount of the snus with the tax added per their chart, but that doesn't include the shipping then. Where's the $14.77?
                Ah. 14 dollar savings now! Better go for it.

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                • precious007
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #23
                  Wooohooo !

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                  • lxskllr
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 13435

                    #24
                    Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                    Can't have a sales tax of 300%. That's a tax set by the government.
                    That's what I'm saying though. what are you going to do if the government puts a 300% sales tax on snus? If they can exempt milk, they add exorbitant amounts to snus, or anything else they want. Cigarettes are taxed at 300%+. sales tax, tobacco tax, it's all just semantics. The government tells you how it'll be, and you abide, or revolt.

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                    • precious007
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      #25
                      Hmm ..

                      As far as I now there is an unique sales tax in every state/country.

                      If they'll make the snus sales tax 300% that means everything else should be taxed the same way which is fairly impossible.

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #26
                        Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                        Hmm ..

                        As far as I now there is an unique sales tax in every state/country.

                        If they'll make the snus sales tax 300% that means everything else should be taxed the same way which is fairly impossible.
                        That means no such thing. Baltimore, the big city local to me, was going to add a 6¢ surcharge to bottled soda under 2L capacity. I'm not sure if that passed or not, but it was proposed. If they can add 6¢ to soda, they can add $12 to snus. People in America are still pro soda, so that had a chance of defeat. Who's gonna defend snus when it goes on the block?

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                        • precious007
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                          • Sep 2010
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                          #27
                          Not sure...

                          Well at least it's legal to sell SNUS in the U.S.

                          E.U still bans it for I don't know what reasons.

                          And anyways it's a bit hard to believe they'll add $12 to a can of SNUS.

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                          • sth
                            Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 118

                            #28
                            I'm sure the large tax is a mistake of some kind, and I'm aware that the "charged amount" is ~51 dollars. However I'm holding off on ordering until I get a response from them because I'd like to know why its showing up that way.

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                            • Snusdog
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                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6752

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sth View Post
                              I'm sure the large tax is a mistake of some kind, and I'm aware that the "charged amount" is ~51 dollars. However I'm holding off on ordering until I get a response from them because I'd like to know why its showing up that way.
                              Let us know what you hear...........I think we would all like to know
                              When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                              • Joe234
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1948

                                #30
                                Oregon has no sales tax. We do have a high tobacco tax of $2.14 a can.

                                What am I going to do, you ask? Start growing and bootlegging tobacco
                                like they did in Canada 15 years ago when their cig tax rose sky high. I saw a
                                guy hold up a bag of blackmarket tobacco from Canada on CNN in 1995.

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