How does BuySnus do it?

[chadizzy1]

I've been wondering this for a while.

When PACT and all rolled around, Northerner rolled up their sleeves, registered with the FDA, Rick went and registered all these states - and then products that didn't comply weren't shipped and all that stuff. Seems like they got their stuff together and got it done.

How is BuySnus doing this no tax thing on their purchases (is it out of pocket for them to pay them for us?), no warning labels on the can (new law requires 30% of the can to be warning, they don't have any), and how are they shipping non FDA compliant snus to the US?

I'm not complaining, some stuff I can't get from Northerner I buy from them, but I've been curious how it's so different for these two companies to operate.

[LincolnSnuff]

Shhhh... I've been contemplating a serious mass order to avoid the day when buysnus announces that they will no longer ship to the US.

[TheJanitor]

Because Northerner is playing it safe, trying to run a domestic operation. Buysnus is only in Sweden and probably doesn't give 2 shits about American tax codes and labeling requirements.

[BadAxe]

I think it has something to do with the PACT act violating the international mail agreement. I know that the guy that owns Toque said the PACT act did not affect him in the slightest. The PACT ACT does not govern companies outside of the US I believe, so what Northerner did was purly voluntary and not really neccessary. THats what I believe anyway. I know I only order from Buysnus now. Northerner lost me forever with how they handled everything. My buysnus gets to me within 4 days everytime I order and the prices are excellent. They got me till things change.

[timoteo]

sorry but, i think this thread should be deleated before someone catches on. if i loose buysnus or snuscentral and my beloverd skruf snus i will probably kill myself.

[BadAxe]

Because Northerner is playing it safe, trying to run a domestic operation. Buysnus is only in Sweden and probably doesn't give 2 shits about American tax codes and labeling requirements.

Buysnus has warehouses in the US, thats how my orders get to me so fast. At least I think so. I could not imagine my snus getting to me in 4 days from Sweden.

[timoteo]

buysnus gets to you quik because its shipped ups. there is no buysnus warehouse in the states, otherwise shipping wouldnt be 25$(+-)

[Crow]

Well, if any of your cans don't have a warning label on them (i.e. imported tobacco), they include the warning on a piece of paper with your order.

[lxskllr]

Snus, and Buysnus are still small potatoes. If a bunch of people caught on to the snus gig, you can be damned sure the government would take notice. Enjoy it while you can. These are the new good old days :^/

[chainsnuser]

How is BuySnus doing this no tax thing on their purchases...?

Obviously your customs officers are to lazy to enforce the PACT rules (which I don't know in detail BTW).

Buysnus is just doing normal international business while it's still possible, like Northerner does when shipping tax free snus from the U.S. to Europe (an option that I will consider with my next order, and probably refuse, because the German customs are a real horror at the moment for consumers - while big companies, of course, can import tax free toxic stuff produced in communist dictatorships by slave laborers with no problems).

Cheers!

[snusjus]

I've yet to place an order from Buysnus since the PACT Act went into effect. I am sticking with General from the gas station, since it's relatively cheap compared to other tobacco products in America. I'm apprehensive to order from Buysnus out of fear of being smacked with a heavy fine by customs. Northerner is more expensive than buying locally, so I will stick with my supply of General from Speedway for the time being.

[truthwolf1]

Once UPS is forced to hand over records the FREE CABLE will be over.

[Experimental Monkey]

I seriously think this thread needs to be removed and never spoke of again.

[f. bandersnatch]

Delete.

And they get away with it because the United States gov't cannot legislate other countries, despite what it may think. Making UPS with age verification the only shipping option is a pretty big concession, I think, and if congress wants to stop people from ordering tax-free tobacco (that we pay the taxes on at the end of the year, of course) from other countries, they are going to have to make it illegal to order tobacco from other countries (which they will probably do).

[texastorm]

I wouldn't worry about this thread so much. No one is going to come down on buysnus. The US government has no say in Sweden, and although they comply with "some" of the law, I am sure if it went to the courts they dont have to comply with any of the law for mail order for personal use.

Now if someone was ordering from buysnus wholesale and RESELLING these products in the US, then we have a problem. The products aren't labled for the US and as such cannot be resold here without further warnings. The products are labeled for sale in Sweden, and there is no ban I know of against bringing Swedish liquor, tobacco, or women home to the US. Whats so very different about shipping home a few cans of snus? Right... nothing. If I flew to Sweden and bought 10 cans of my favorite non Cuban brands, I could mail them home without issue. So how can it really be an issue to have a friend (in this case buysnus.com) send me a few cans? The only difference is I didn't travel to Sweden in person, I traveled there online and purchased it that way.

The only reason I can see they stopped using post and went to UPS is they dont want orders getting confiscated.

Now as for taxes, just contact you local tax office and get the required forms... I know I do. Yep I pay them with every order... right on time... just like I am supposed to.


All legal advice worth every cent you payed. No refunds, no exchange. In the event this legal advice is defective texastorm reserves the right to change his mind at any time. Not valid in all fifty states. Check with your local authorities.