I feel very let down by Northerner - be careful!

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  • squeezyjohn
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2497

    I feel very let down by Northerner - be careful!

    Like most people here I've used Northerner - and I've used them A LOT! For the main part their service has been very good, and I'm aware that without them us worldwide snusers would have a lot less options.

    However ...

    I ordered four cans of Pioneer from their US web shop at the end of November on the good recommendations here and because I like to try out new stuff. When it hadn't arrived by the beginning of January I figured it wasn't just Christmas getting in the way and as I'd had no correspondence from customs, it hadn't got tied up there. So I sent an email asking where it was.

    I was told that it was sent on 2nd Dec and should be with me in 7-10 working days ... I replied that it had been 35 days - wasn't it about time to suspect something had gone wrong with the order and sort this out. AND I GOT THIS REPLY - I HAVE NEVER SEEN CUSTOMER SERVICE SO BLATANTLY AWFUL:

    Dear John Spiers,

    I am sorry that you do not have any word about your order yet. Unfortunately your order has not been returned to us at this time. If it is returned, we will be more than glad to reship at your cost for reshipping.

    If there is anything else I can do for you, please feel free to contact me.

    Thank you, Amy
    And that's it. It's my fault that I didn't receive the goods and I have to bear the full expense of the missing goods or the cost of shipping (for snus which will undoubtedly have gone bad after more than a month in the post) if it turns out that the postal service have just made a mistake and sent the snus back to the US. That makes absolutely no sense to me at all for such a small order.

    Sorry Northerner! I think that's it, decision made. I was already suspicious of their tactic of buying up other snus online shops and becoming so powerful, but when they get so complacent that they will not se-send a 4 can order that has been messed up because they don't offer a traceable service for US based stock back to Europe then SORRY - I cannot carry on dealing with a company that DOESN'T HAVE PRIDE IN CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. There are alternatives.

    THIS IS A COMPANY I SPENT OVER $1000 WITH LAST YEAR FOR GOD'S SAKE!

    Sorry for the rant! It's made me so cross.
    Squeezyjohn

    Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!
  • shikitohno
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1156

    #2
    And Northerner shoots themselves in the foot once again. Seriously, they need to step up their customer service game and get things sorted. These sort of horror stories keep popping up on a regular basis, and have been for at least the last year and a half. And by all accounts, Northerner has done nothing to improve their customer service. You guys need someone to man the phone lines and inbox, or what? Seems like it might be about past time for you guys to expand that department of your company, or you're going to have a bunch of pissed of customers leaving for other stores that take better care of their clients.

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    • crullers
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 663

      #3
      Is this a problem mostly with the US shop? I've been dealing with the Swedish one and haven't had a problem yet.

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      • spirit72
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 1013

        #4
        Originally posted by crullers
        Is this a problem mostly with the US shop? I've been dealing with the Swedish one and haven't had a problem yet.
        It does happen from time to time with international shipments with both Northerner and Buysnus. Not sure if it gets hung up in Customs, or just 'lost'.

        4 cans, though? Give the chap a break, Northerner.

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        • squeezyjohn
          Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2497

          #5
          It's the US shop mainly because there's no option for shipping apart from USPS regular mail which is untraceable. I always use UPS or FedEx when I order from Sweden for exactly those reasons. I have ordered from the Northerner US warehouse before without trouble.

          It's the attitude I have an issue with. Either a company uses a shipping method where the shipper can be held accountable and claimed against if a package goes missing, or they take a hit when one goes missing. The last thing I would expect is for them to say that I should take the hit. I mean - that's gambling, not ordering from a reputable company.

          It's not inconceivable for someone in my position to believe that Northerner has just not sent the package and has kept my money ... obviously it would be libellous to claim that is the case so I won't. However from my position the end result is the same thing - and if they were bothered about their company's reputation then they would not have dealt with my problem in such a manner.

          Just Saying!

          Just saying!
          Squeezyjohn

          Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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          • Fazer
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 663

            #6
            I don't like the fact that you cant have a traceable service from the US. I've just ordered six cans of Pioneer from their US web shop which i 'hope' i'll get in a couple weeks time. i've only done 3 orders from the US and the non traceable service is the reason why .... it sucks that they wont resend 4 bloody cans mate, that's just crap service

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            • benwon5
              Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 33

              #7
              I have switched away from them due to the lack of customer service. They really have alot to learn about customer service! What they seem to do well is give free stuff to the people with you tube followings.

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              • Ansel
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 3696

                #8
                I'm sorry to hear about your trouble John - that's not good.

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                • Fazer
                  Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 663

                  #9
                  I will say one good thing about Northerner from my point of view. I did an order for 10 cans of Phanton Los and they sent portions, at first i figured oh well that sucks. The next day i sent an email that wasn't complaining as such, just pointing out their packaging department had messed up, and i was just pointing it out as i'd always had 'very' good service. I figured that would be it, but no, they sent out a roll of 10 los and paid the post, the best part was they didn't ask for the portions back, they just said sorry and gave me a free roll

                  Edit: it was Amy from customer service who delt with you john

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                  • Ansel
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 3696

                    #10
                    They did send me a roll of Skruf Stark when i had a roll of Skruf Stark go missing...

                    edit: which UPS lost (i had tracking)

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fazer
                      I don't like the fact that you cant have a traceable service from the US.
                      Non-traceable? I just ordered from them a week ago and like always they sent me the "Quantum View" UPS Ship notication that includes the tracking number. I can trace it from the warehouse to my doorstep. Maybe it's because I live in the states though and they don't offer that service when shiping to the uk or something?



                      Re: OP's problem


                      Shit seems to get lost a lot, and i'm not sure who to blame for that but it's probably customs, UPS, Northerner, or some combination of the 3. That part is inevitable but I do think they should offer to re-ship you the 4 cans at their expense. Additionally, they should substitute new cans because after 40+ days of being somwhere between the US and England in a hot truck/ship/plane, I imagine they are dry as hell and of little value to you at this point. The cost to Northerner for 4 cans would be miniscule relative to the amount of potential business they will lose by pissing off a recurring customer.


                      Edit: In Northerner's defense however, they always seem to remedy any situation i've had. I imagine they will go ahead and re-ship the items to you at their expense and this may all be due to some customer service lakey they hired who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually Northerner comes through in the end (though it would be nice if you didn't have to fight with them to make that happen).

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                      • shikitohno
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1156

                        #12
                        sgreger, it seems USPS is the only shipping option for international orders from their US warehouse, apparently. So UPS has nothing to do with this, nor do your experiences dealing with them. Whole different game to play for our friends in Europe.

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                        • Fazer
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 663

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sgreger1
                          Non-traceable? I just ordered from them a week ago and like always they sent me the "Quantum View" UPS Ship notication that includes the tracking number. I can trace it from the warehouse to my doorstep. Maybe it's because I live in the states though and they don't offer that service when shiping to the uk or something?
                          We get the quantum view UPS ship notication that includes the tracking number if we order from the EU but, orders from the US is regular US post office mate

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                          • wa3zrm
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 4436

                            #14
                            Originally posted by squeezyjohn
                            And that's it. It's my fault that I didn't receive the goods and I have to bear the full expense of the missing goods or the cost of shipping...
                            If you ordered by credit card, contact your credit card company and report that fraud has taken place. They should refund your money and give Northerner some grief!
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                            • Fazer
                              Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 663

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ansel
                              They did send me a roll of Skruf Stark when i had a roll of Skruf Stark go missing...

                              edit: which UPS lost (i had tracking)
                              I always wonder how things get "lost" when they have an entry scan as it goes onto the truck, and an exit scan when it comes off the truck at the next hub? funny that innit

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