How long does Snusline take to deliver to EU?

[Frosted]

That is not the terms of the politics in question and you know it. Although I admit I am broadening it out to the behaviour of the Muslim world.

[squeezyjohn]

Make sure you watch the videos IN FULL.

Frosted ... please don't do this ...

I have watched your videos in full, and as distressing and graphic as they are ... they are only showing the disgusting actions of some (presumably) ISIS militia killing unknown random people ... I know that's horrible ... and something we should do something about ... but those people in the videos are neither Israeli nor Jewish ... in fact they are very likely to be Muslim minorities.

I also watched the video of a white man saying that he thinks Israel is right and Palestinians are wrong ... I was expecting some earth shattering news here from you as you said it was so important ... but there's no news there ... what you have posted is somebody saying what they want to believe ... not what is true.

The world is not as simple as goodies and baddies anymore I'm afraid ... all of today's problems of the Middle East stem from post World War tinkering by the West and the West's status quo simply radicalises more people from the Islamic side of things ... if things are to be resolved then that has to stop now ... and we can unite with the everyday Muslims to eradicate the real dangers like ISIS.

[Frosted]

Good old Snuson has already delved into the incredibly tedious arena of semantics on this argument so I deliver this guy to say it better than I can. I still urge you strongly to visit my Facebook page at Thomas Richard Harry for the videos that I've considered I will not post here as they would be against the terms of this site...but it would make my blood boil if you didn't...or you walked away thinking Hamas wouldnt do that.

[Frosted]

Frosted ... please don't do this ...

I have watched your videos in full, and as distressing and graphic as they are ... they are only showing the disgusting actions of some (presumably) ISIS militia killing unknown random people ... I know that's horrible ... and something we should do something about ... but those people in the videos are neither Israeli nor Jewish ... in fact they are very likely to be Muslim minorities.

I also watched the video of a white man saying that he thinks Israel is right and Palestinians are wrong ... I was expecting some earth shattering news here from you as you said it was so important ... but there's no news there ... what you have posted is somebody saying what they want to believe ... not what is true.

The world is not as simple as goodies and baddies anymore I'm afraid ... all of today's problems of the Middle East stem from post World War tinkering by the West and the West's status quo simply radicalises more people from the Islamic side of things ... if things are to be resolved then that has to stop now ... and we can unite with the everyday Muslims to eradicate the real dangers like ISIS.

Sorry..just no.

[alopezg1]

Ok , no I am not an Israeli . I was just illustrating the point that ethnic or religious denomination is not nescesarily a valid or even particularly useful category when trying to divide the world up into a 'them' and an 'us' , or goodies vs baddies

[Frosted]

Who starts it every time? Oh the goodies. Yeah...

[alopezg1]

so what you are essentially saying is that you don't like/trust Muslims and that the state of Israel makes you feel safe as a nice stop gap between them and us

[Frosted]

Looks like we're just in a stalemate cause I ain't budging and neither are you.
Best wishes in your freedom of speech and thought. I just hope that none are ever suppressed.

[alopezg1]

you would have to go back a very long time to find out who started what and if that bore any relevance to what is happening today

[alopezg1]

ok i agree

[squeezyjohn]

I have a good friend who is an orthodox Rabbi and who expressed to me a few years ago the reasons why he actually opposed the modern state of Israel because it was actually against many important aspects of his religion ... he cited zionists as the reason Israel existed and why the USA and the West in general were supporting it despite the massive problems it inevitably faced ... I cannot remember his exact words, but I remember that they shocked me to the core ... and this quick search online showed I wasn't imagining things ...

From http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/zionism/opposition.cfm - It's too long to repost here ... but it says the same things that he was saying in a far more verbose way.

[squeezyjohn]

I would also like to say (to attempt to stay on topic) that I appreciate everything that SNUSLINE has done for snusers in the nicotianally repressed states of the EU ... it's nothing personal to the company or their employees who have given great customer service ... simply I do not wish my purchases to raise tax revenue for the current Israeli government.

[Frosted]

I have a good friend who is an orthodox Rabbi and who expressed to me a few years ago the reasons why he actually opposed the modern state of Israel because it was actually against many important aspects of his religion ... he cited zionists as the reason Israel existed and why the USA and the West in general were supporting it despite the massive problems it inevitably faced ... I cannot remember his exact words, but I remember that they shocked me to the core ... and this quick search online showed I wasn't imagining things ...


From http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/zionism/opposition.cfm - It's too long to repost here ... but it says the same things that he was saying in a far more verbose way.

I've read that before but it completely ignores the events that lead to the civil war in 1948.

[squeezyjohn]

Good Night Frosted ... I think I still love you but we need many hours in the pub together I think ... I hope that the mods prune tonights postings to a thread about a snus vendor based in Israel ... this has been useful talk I think ... but not on topic.

[Frosted]

Good Night Frosted ... I think I still love you but we need many hours in the pub together I think ... I hope that the mods prune tonights postings to a thread about a snus vendor based in Israel ... this has been useful talk I think ... but not on topic.

lol...love you too Squeezy....but somebody started it