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  • TwoFeetShorter
    New Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 6

    I think Northerer is having a breakdown!

    So this is my first post on snuson, and I'm going to tll my story and ask for some advice.
    So first off, I have been using snus for about 10 months. I was a regular pack and a half smoker for years. I started when I was about 16, and I am now 41. At the age of 37 I got a freak illness and became a triple amputee. For a while I wasn't as mobile, and all that sitting around just made my smoking habit even worse. I had been a dip user (Kodiak) since grade school, so I would occasionally switch out to dip while I was still running around in my wheelchair.

    Once I was back on a set of legs and back to doing some sports I enjoyed (Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) I knew that the smokes had to go, so I tried full time dip. That worked for a while, but my lip was getting worse for wear, and a guy at the tobacco shop threw a can of Camel snus my way and told me to try it. It was ok. It didn't burn up my jaw like Kodiak, but it just tasted so.... Blech!

    So I got online and researched snus, and found the wonderful world of true swedish snun. I originally went with Northenrer because they had cheaper shipping rates then any online store, $28 vs $55-$60 at other places. I had read some bad reviews about customer service, but decided to give them a try anyway.
    I started out ordering Jackobbsons Melon, and made a consistent order every month until just a few months ago. Never had a single problem with ordering, and I got the order from Sweden in usually 3-4 days. It was great! I wasn't smoking, and I didn't have a burned up lip! I still had spit cups lying around, because the dipper in me just couldn't deal with the thought of swallowing the juice. (Which I have now overcome!)
    So right about the time of Northerners website update a few months back I couldn't find my Melon in stock, so I tried Thunder Raspberry portions, which I enjoyed.
    So I go to order Thunder Raspberry last month, and it isn't even on the US site anymore, as well as Jac's Melon being completely gone. So I hop on over to their Facebook page and ask, and am told basically the fun fruit flavors were no longer allowed to be sold in the US, due to some kind of new rules.
    So, I order a roll of Thunder frosted, and a few cans of thunder regular. That order came in fast from the new US warehouse no problem, and shipped for like 13 bucks (To KY)! I soon found that I rather enjoyed the regular much more than the frosted, so I go make an order a few days ago during the weekend sale, get myself 15 cans of Thunder regular, and think I am good to go.

    Monday I get my UPS email saying I have an order getting ready to be shipped, and that's that.

    Until this morning. I got two emails back to back from northerner, one saying my order was being canceled and refunded because Thunder regular was out of stock at the time of shipping, and an email right after that thanking me for my order, like I had made another order.

    So I use the website helpdesk system to ask whats going on, and I get a huge apology about my order being out of stock, and that the duplicate order email was just a technical error. Well, I was bummed, I'm down to my last can and a half of the Frosted, and my nicotine habit will not be denied!

    Just for fun, I checked the tracking I had gotten from UPS, and low and behold an order WAS shipped, and is due here tomorrow. The package tracking shows regular stops along UPS's hubs, and was in Lexington as of this morning. I sent the tracking link to the help desk, but haven't heard back again from them yet.

    With my order I got a free gift, so I chose some cool cactus candies I have had before. I am SO hoping that I don't open a package tomorrow from the UPS guy with just a box of candy in it....

    So am I finally a victim of the bad service from Northerner I heard so much about?
    Selection went from awesome to hardly anything.
    Everything seems to be out of stock all the time.
    Things they say are not allowed in the US are still being sold at other online stores.
    I have to call my bank every month to have international charges "turned on" before I can pay for my order.
    And now this shipping snafu.

    What do you guys think?
    Should I find a new snus store, and who else has cheap shipping? Or, do I wait and see if Northerner has really lost before I jump ship?

    Oh, and I will update this post after the UPS guy comes tomorrow!
  • Snusdog
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 6752

    #2
    May be the candy. I would wait and see. At worse you have a snack.......at best you have your snus. Only time will tell.

    However, if your order is just candy I would recommend trying a Pinkerton dip to tide you over (Timberwolf for example) Pinkerton is a Swedish Match company and their dip has very low TSNA. Another route might be one of the Copenhagen long cuts (southern Blend, Black, Natural) they might be a little easier on the gums as well.

    Either of those might tide you over until you can place and receive your next order.

    Oh......and welcome to the forum mate! Glad to have you with us.
    When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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    • BlackBart
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 115

      #3
      welcome, hopefully you tastes will adjust to northerners meager offerings like mine has........but hey......shippings half what it is from sweden.

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      • sharesnusinfo!
        Member
        • May 2008
        • 477

        #4
        Originally posted by TwoFeetShorter View Post
        So this is my first post on snuson, and I'm going to tll my story and ask for some advice.
        So first off, I have been using snus for about 10 months. I was a regular pack and a half smoker for years. I started when I was about 16, and I am now 41. At the age of 37 I got a freak illness and became a triple amputee. For a while I wasn't as mobile, and all that sitting around just made my smoking habit even worse. I had been a dip user (Kodiak) since grade school, so I would occasionally switch out to dip while I was still running around in my wheelchair.

        Once I was back on a set of legs and back to doing some sports I enjoyed (Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) I knew that the smokes had to go, so I tried full time dip. That worked for a while, but my lip was getting worse for wear, and a guy at the tobacco shop threw a can of Camel snus my way and told me to try it. It was ok. It didn't burn up my jaw like Kodiak, but it just tasted so.... Blech!

        So I got online and researched snus, and found the wonderful world of true swedish snun. I originally went with Northenrer because they had cheaper shipping rates then any online store, $28 vs $55-$60 at other places. I had read some bad reviews about customer service, but decided to give them a try anyway.
        I started out ordering Jackobbsons Melon, and made a consistent order every month until just a few months ago. Never had a single problem with ordering, and I got the order from Sweden in usually 3-4 days. It was great! I wasn't smoking, and I didn't have a burned up lip! I still had spit cups lying around, because the dipper in me just couldn't deal with the thought of swallowing the juice. (Which I have now overcome!)
        So right about the time of Northerners website update a few months back I couldn't find my Melon in stock, so I tried Thunder Raspberry portions, which I enjoyed.
        So I go to order Thunder Raspberry last month, and it isn't even on the US site anymore, as well as Jac's Melon being completely gone. So I hop on over to their Facebook page and ask, and am told basically the fun fruit flavors were no longer allowed to be sold in the US, due to some kind of new rules.
        So, I order a roll of Thunder frosted, and a few cans of thunder regular. That order came in fast from the new US warehouse no problem, and shipped for like 13 bucks (To KY)! I soon found that I rather enjoyed the regular much more than the frosted, so I go make an order a few days ago during the weekend sale, get myself 15 cans of Thunder regular, and think I am good to go.

        Monday I get my UPS email saying I have an order getting ready to be shipped, and that's that.

        Until this morning. I got two emails back to back from northerner, one saying my order was being canceled and refunded because Thunder regular was out of stock at the time of shipping, and an email right after that thanking me for my order, like I had made another order.

        So I use the website helpdesk system to ask whats going on, and I get a huge apology about my order being out of stock, and that the duplicate order email was just a technical error. Well, I was bummed, I'm down to my last can and a half of the Frosted, and my nicotine habit will not be denied!

        Just for fun, I checked the tracking I had gotten from UPS, and low and behold an order WAS shipped, and is due here tomorrow. The package tracking shows regular stops along UPS's hubs, and was in Lexington as of this morning. I sent the tracking link to the help desk, but haven't heard back again from them yet.

        With my order I got a free gift, so I chose some cool cactus candies I have had before. I am SO hoping that I don't open a package tomorrow from the UPS guy with just a box of candy in it....

        So am I finally a victim of the bad service from Northerner I heard so much about?
        Selection went from awesome to hardly anything.
        Everything seems to be out of stock all the time.
        Things they say are not allowed in the US are still being sold at other online stores.
        I have to call my bank every month to have international charges "turned on" before I can pay for my order.
        And now this shipping snafu.

        What do you guys think?
        Should I find a new snus store, and who else has cheap shipping? Or, do I wait and see if Northerner has really lost before I jump ship?

        Oh, and I will update this post after the UPS guy comes tomorrow!
        Hello,

        Send me an E-Mail and maby i can sample you a few cans of Melon (Like/dislike your story)

        jimi.karlsson@gotlandssnus.com

        /Jimi
        /Jimi

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        • fridanortherner
          Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 19

          #5
          Hi!

          I am sorry to inform you that Thunder Original, 19.8g, Extra Strong Portion were out of stock at the time of shipment of your order. I can see that customer service have cancelled and refunded these items (including the Läkerol Cactus) I am so sorry for the inconvenience. Despite that I can also see an active order at UPS that have a scheduled delivery for today, if you will get a package today there will be no charge for it.

          Due to new FDA regulations we are no longer able to offer our hole snus range unfortunately(!). We at Northerner are respecting this new regulations and I can not answer how others online stores handling it. We are at the moment looking at all opportunities to be able broaden our range without go against the new regulations.

          If you like strong snus you might like Jakobsson's Mint or Wintergreen (both being shipped from the warehouse in USA)

          Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you and I will do my absolutely best to help you.

          //Frida at Northerner

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          • TwoFeetShorter
            New Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 6

            #6
            Originally posted by fridanortherner View Post
            Hi!

            I am sorry to inform you that Thunder Original, 19.8g, Extra Strong Portion were out of stock at the time of shipment of your order. I can see that customer service have cancelled and refunded these items (including the Läkerol Cactus) I am so sorry for the inconvenience. Despite that I can also see an active order at UPS that have a scheduled delivery for today, if you will get a package today there will be no charge for it.

            Due to new FDA regulations we are no longer able to offer our hole snus range unfortunately(!). We at Northerner are respecting this new regulations and I can not answer how others online stores handling it. We are at the moment looking at all opportunities to be able broaden our range without go against the new regulations.

            If you like strong snus you might like Jakobsson's Mint or Wintergreen (both being shipped from the warehouse in USA)

            Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you and I will do my absolutely best to help you.

            //Frida at Northerner
            Frida, thank you so much for the response! Yes, I did just receive my package, and it was one box of Lakerol cactus candy. Which is yummy, by the way. Thank you for diving in far enough to see that something was actually shipped, as I got a response from the help desk once again this morning saying nothing was shipped, lol. Waiting on the shipment put me in a holding pattern on whether or not to order either different snus, or go with a different store that had what I wanted.

            I have gone ahead this month an ordered elsewhere that had what I wanted (Thunder regular) in stock, but because of your response here I will check back at Northerner next month to see if it is stock. You guys do plan on keeping it is stock I assume, Frida?

            I am assuming you can't stock the "fun flavors" because you are now shipping from US warehouses, as the FDA rules imply. That's ok. I would make a suggestion to Northerner, though. I think everyone feels a bit up in the air about what is going on with the changes, why not simply put out an email telling everyone why the changes to certain stock, and what future brands you will try and stock instead? That would let us all feel a bit better about the changes and staying loyal customers. One thoughtful email could save you a ton of lost business.

            I have learned that mint and wintergreen flavors don't sit well with me, as I don't like the burn, so I will stick with regular or fruit flavors to save irritation, though I appreciate the Jak's suggestions.

            Now I just hope I can make my can and a half last until my new order arrives.. Yikes!

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            • TwoFeetShorter
              New Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 6

              #7
              Originally posted by sharesnusinfo! View Post
              Hello,

              Send me an E-Mail and maby i can sample you a few cans of Melon (Like/dislike your story)

              jimi.karlsson@gotlandssnus.com

              /Jimi
              Thank you, Jimi! I will take you up on that offer!

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              • TwoFeetShorter
                New Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 6

                #8
                Originally posted by Snusdog View Post
                May be the candy. I would wait and see. At worse you have a snack.......at best you have your snus. Only time will tell.

                However, if your order is just candy I would recommend trying a Pinkerton dip to tide you over (Timberwolf for example) Pinkerton is a Swedish Match company and their dip has very low TSNA. Another route might be one of the Copenhagen long cuts (southern Blend, Black, Natural) they might be a little easier on the gums as well.

                Either of those might tide you over until you can place and receive your next order.

                Oh......and welcome to the forum mate! Glad to have you with us.
                Originally posted by BlackBart View Post
                welcome, hopefully you tastes will adjust to northerners meager offerings like mine has........but hey......shippings half what it is from sweden.
                Sorry for the multiple posts, I jut figured out the multi-quote function! Thank you both Snusdog and Blackbart for the welcome.
                Snusdog, I used to enjoy Timberwolf and Cope both when I was having off moments from Kodiak back in my heavy dipping days. Especially Timber wolf, as the company I worked for did business with their Nascar Racing team out of Central City, KY, so I got free samples every time I was in the place. Not to mention geting to hang out with the pit crew and cars.

                After my long stint in the hospital and all the different medications, I found that I had mouth problems. I can't even brush my teeth with regular toothpaste, as it burns like hot sauce! Kodiak was one of the few dips that didn't light me on fire, so I stuck with that when I dipped after the hospital stay. That's why finding snus was such a life saver for me. Not as bad for my health as dip or smokes, no burn, and heavy nicotine!

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                • Snusdog
                  Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6752

                  #9
                  Got it! Hope you are able to get a new order quickly

                  Frida and Jimmy thank you both for your replies to this situation. Your involvement is greatly appreciarted

                  Also Frida, I think twofeetshorter's idea about an email or even a post here about what is going on with the stock issues and what you are hoping to see happen in the future is a really good idea. I know our members here would love to know.

                  Dog
                  When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                  • fridanortherner
                    Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 19

                    #10
                    I'm so glad to hear you are willing to place you're next order at Northerner! I've been informed that the Thunder Original will be refilled within the next week. If you e-mail me at Frida@Northerner.com I'll make sure you get a discount on your next order.

                    Thanks for the tip, I really appreciates when you give us this type of information. We will therefore send a newsletter shortly to inform about the changes.

                    Let me know if there anything else you want me to help you with.

                    //Frida

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                    • Damicom3
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 65

                      #11
                      This thread caught my eye because it answered a question that was in my head about thunder snus. Basically I got all my other snus I ordered a week or more ago and the the thunder snus just attempted to get delivered to my apt by ups today. Which I have no problem with I was just wondering where it was. Glad this thread answered my question too though.

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                      • TwoFeetShorter
                        New Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Package arrived yesterday Jimi! Thank you sir! Can't wait to try some of the other flavors you threw in. You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman!

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                        • Snusdog
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6752

                          #13
                          Its always nice when the story has a happy ending

                          When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                          • sharesnusinfo!
                            Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 477

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TwoFeetShorter View Post
                            Package arrived yesterday Jimi! Thank you sir! Can't wait to try some of the other flavors you threw in. You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman!
                            Fantastic! Enjoy
                            Have a nice weekend

                            /Jimbo
                            /Jimi

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                            • Skell18
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 7067

                              #15
                              Northerner is useless to us at the mo, all it has is V2 which I don't want. I was the Easter gotlands snus, skruf, gots yellow (hint hint) and general, but I can't get it! Thank fook for oden's site!

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