GetSnus.com now has a forum!

[sagedil]

In fact he has on other posts expressed the fact that as he would like to see them succeed as it gives us all more options, he plans on ordering from them as well.

Oh, one more thing Maximus, as too your quote above. Are we rewriting history now? My opinion has been partly based on the quotes from sagedil below.

And I quote from sagedil posts:

Seeing them put up a forum has now convinced me to never bother with them.



Getsnus. Lame useless forum, and pathetic selection. Oh boy, I am so excited.

So again, I will repeat myself. They can bite me

When Getsnus offers more than they currently do, perhaps I will make an order from them. Until they do, I don't see any reason.

So when Getsnus decides it wants to be a serious player and actually carry what I use, give me a call.

If Getsnus had never started their forum, i would probably still be holding my tongue. But I am VERY angered by that decision, a complete and total lack of respect for what already is in my book. And the ironic thing is, without Snuson, they probably wouldn't have much of a business. So going forward, I will continue to be very aggressive in both promoting Buysnus, and sticking my tongue out at Getsnus at every opportunity.

Wow, since you obviously are paying WAY too much attention to what I write, your failure to include my most recent posts clearly shows you are attempting to twist and mislead. My last posts on the subject.

I agree grimmfaust that things should improve as they grow. And despite what some folks might think, I really do wish them well as a provider of snus.

I have just objected at times, to some of the more frothy and silly postings, and get particularly nasty when I think others are degenerating other sellers of snus to imply that folks should only use Getsnus. Look back and you will see what I mean there.

But if Getsnus has what you want, and you save money, go for it. I will continue to laugh about folks using shipping time as a reason to use them though. Yes, for the minority of folks here who wait to order when they have 2 cans left, fast shipping matters. For the rest of us, we order with plenty on hand, 3 days, 5 days, 7 days, what does it matter??

But, since I DO want Getsnus to prosper, I will make a point of ordering from them within the next month or two. Will need to place a 2nd order with Buysnus, but I do want to send some money Getsnus way, so will order what they have that I usually get

posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:32 pm

I do want to be clear here.

I am all in favor of Getsnus breaking into the market. The more providers of snus, the better. I do have some issues with their selling snus so close to expiration date, but as long as folks know that, accept that, all is OK with me.

I absolutely will question it when someone says they always send fresh snus, as this is simply not what 80% of Getsnuses customers are reporting.

Whatever issues I have with Getsnus have to do with their choice to start another forum, the rules they set up for that forum, and the fact that they are misleading, potentially, new snusers a bit.

But, I have heard nothing but good things about Getsnus customer service. I am hoping they are able to broaden what they offer. As I posted elsewhere, using my last order as a guide, Getsnus carries only about 20% of what I use, so simply isn't a reasonable alternative for me....yet. If folks want to make use of Getsnus, cool. But to ONLY use Getsnus?? I think that would be so sad, as they would be missing out on a whole bunch of great snus.

I will figure out a reason to use them soon, as I do want to see them succeed. But I will still think their forum is both wrongheaded and potentially disservice to the snus community. :wink:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:46 pm


Don't twist me, you WILL lose that game grimmfaust

[grimmfaust]

Yes Grimm, Sage has in the past had a few rants about GetSnus but through conversations with him here in the forum and without taking anything he says as personal I helped him to understand that havng GetSnus would not be a bad thing as it does open our options a bit.

As to who else you went after, you commented yourself when Baker asked about the cheerleading and you went after him a little. Seriously try not to take everything so personally. No one is out to get you. We all express opinions here that are not going to be agreed upon by everyone but most of the time I have seen everyone take it with a grain of salt.

I agree that you are an equal member here and your opinions count as well until you start to take it personally and start to go after people specifically like referencing Sage's madness comment, then it becomes more than an opinion. I'm just asking you to reconsider or filter some of your feelings when you start to post. We want to hear what everyone says and thinks about snus or other sites that sell snus or are snus related but not necessarily jabs at others.

My opinion does not differ from yours in regard to this forum...but your slapping me on my wrist is silly...I don't see a post about the f bombs and personal insults directed towards me here as a post; before your quoted "madness comment"..I would like to see that

Please explain....

[sagedil]

But there is a method to my madness

Madness indeed :roll:

[grimmfaust]

In fact he has on other posts expressed the fact that as he would like to see them succeed as it gives us all more options, he plans on ordering from them as well.

Oh, one more thing Maximus, as too your quote above. Are we rewriting history now? My opinion has been partly based on the quotes from sagedil below.

And I quote from sagedil posts:

Seeing them put up a forum has now convinced me to never bother with them.



Getsnus. Lame useless forum, and pathetic selection. Oh boy, I am so excited.

So again, I will repeat myself. They can bite me

When Getsnus offers more than they currently do, perhaps I will make an order from them. Until they do, I don't see any reason.

So when Getsnus decides it wants to be a serious player and actually carry what I use, give me a call.

If Getsnus had never started their forum, i would probably still be holding my tongue. But I am VERY angered by that decision, a complete and total lack of respect for what already is in my book. And the ironic thing is, without Snuson, they probably wouldn't have much of a business. So going forward, I will continue to be very aggressive in both promoting Buysnus, and sticking my tongue out at Getsnus at every opportunity.

Wow, since you obviously are paying WAY too much attention to what I write, your failure to include my most recent posts clearly shows you are attempting to twist and mislead. My last posts on the subject.

I agree grimmfaust that things should improve as they grow. And despite what some folks might think, I really do wish them well as a provider of snus.

I have just objected at times, to some of the more frothy and silly postings, and get particularly nasty when I think others are degenerating other sellers of snus to imply that folks should only use Getsnus. Look back and you will see what I mean there.

But if Getsnus has what you want, and you save money, go for it. I will continue to laugh about folks using shipping time as a reason to use them though. Yes, for the minority of folks here who wait to order when they have 2 cans left, fast shipping matters. For the rest of us, we order with plenty on hand, 3 days, 5 days, 7 days, what does it matter??

But, since I DO want Getsnus to prosper, I will make a point of ordering from them within the next month or two. Will need to place a 2nd order with Buysnus, but I do want to send some money Getsnus way, so will order what they have that I usually get

posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:32 pm

I do want to be clear here.

I am all in favor of Getsnus breaking into the market. The more providers of snus, the better. I do have some issues with their selling snus so close to expiration date, but as long as folks know that, accept that, all is OK with me.

I absolutely will question it when someone says they always send fresh snus, as this is simply not what 80% of Getsnuses customers are reporting.

Whatever issues I have with Getsnus have to do with their choice to start another forum, the rules they set up for that forum, and the fact that they are misleading, potentially, new snusers a bit.

But, I have heard nothing but good things about Getsnus customer service. I am hoping they are able to broaden what they offer. As I posted elsewhere, using my last order as a guide, Getsnus carries only about 20% of what I use, so simply isn't a reasonable alternative for me....yet. If folks want to make use of Getsnus, cool. But to ONLY use Getsnus?? I think that would be so sad, as they would be missing out on a whole bunch of great snus.

I will figure out a reason to use them soon, as I do want to see them succeed. But I will still think their forum is both wrongheaded and potentially disservice to the snus community. :wink:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:46 pm


Don't twist me, you WILL lose that game grimmfaust

Dude...my questions about this "issue" were based on the quotes below..I did not read the more current posts where you "backpeddled. I am not twisting anything nor trying to play a game or win or lose. I am quoting what I read. It;s there in black and white and is not out of context or spinned. That is what had me present a counter opinion. I will post the quotes in question again...

Seeing them put up a forum has now convinced me to never bother with them.

Getsnus. Lame useless forum, and pathetic selection. Oh boy, I am so excited.

So again, I will repeat myself. They can bite me

When Getsnus offers more than they currently do, perhaps I will make an order from them. Until they do, I don't see any reason.

So when Getsnus decides it wants to be a serious player and actually carry what I use, give me a call.

If Getsnus had never started their forum, i would probably still be holding my tongue. But I am VERY angered by that decision, a complete and total lack of respect for what already is in my book. And the ironic thing is, without Snuson, they probably wouldn't have much of a business. So going forward, I will continue to be very aggressive in both promoting Buysnus, and sticking my tongue out at Getsnus at every opportunity.

[Maximus]

I'm not trying to rewrite history with Sage, it's just I have read everything new on this whole site and have seen him change his mind regarding GetSnus, partially due to how I approached it with him. I just think you are taking this too personally is all. I have seen your other posts and would like to continue to see your posts. I am just asking that it be primarily towards snus and not towards individuals.

[sagedil]

The funny thing, one of those most recent post where I "backpedaled" was a reply to you. Of course you saw it.

You dragged up all my older posts as a response to Maximus when you accused him of rewriting history when he referenced my most recent posts saying I was gonna make a point of buying from Getsnus,

In fact he has on other posts expressed the fact that as he would like to see them succeed as it gives us all more options, he plans on ordering from them as well.

Oh, one more thing Maximus, as too your quote above. Are we rewriting history now? My opinion has been partly based on the quotes from sagedil below.

Again, one of those posts was a direct response to you, which YOU responded to, so OBVIOUSLY had read it.

Yes, I"backpedaled" Yes, after much thought, felt I had been a bit unfair towards Getsnus, so felt it was important to come back and publicly state that I intend to order from them.

Yet, you STILL dodge that part, and just throw up my older posts again. Why?

[grimmfaust]

I'm not trying to rewrite history with Sage, it's just I have read everything new on this whole site and have seen him change his mind regarding GetSnus, partially due to how I approached it with him. I just think you are taking this too personally is all. I have seen your other posts and would like to continue to see your posts. I am just asking that it be primarily towards snus and not towards individuals.

You didn't answer my question...but you don't have to.

You have no right to ask anything of me...but since you insist on lecturing...where is the post embarrassing the poster who directed F bombs and insults specifically at me...

Are those allowed without impunity? Since you are making recomendations about my posts; I take it you have some authourity here or not...so can I do the above then?

[Maximus]

I am just as concerned with that and am assuming you are referring to Sage's rant after your post prior in this thread. I would ask Sage to take it down a notch as well, which he has and is merely responding to what he felt and I think others would feel are personal attacks It has nothing to do with having any authority here, it's just I recently saw a few recent posts tonight where it seemed your normal light heartedness had changed and was merely asking that you change your method was all.

[grimmfaust]

Can you point me to the thread where that happened? I would be just as concerned with that. It has nothing to do with having any authority here, it's just I recently saw a few recent posts tonight where it seemed your normal light heartedness had changed and was merely asking that you change your method was all.

Below is the post...and honestly it was a response to a post I made, and a comment that actually was not about him but a generalized statement...


sagedil

Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 1329
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:04 am Post subject:

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Give me a freaking break. What in the fu** have I said that is trying to "destroy" another forum. Where is the "war"?? Because I bring up concerns?? How in the fu** am I hurting ANYONE?? I have NEVER done anything to hurt another forum. I haven't gone there to make trouble, all I have done is express my dissatisfaction about choices another business has made. Period.

I'm done with this. YOU truly just don't get it.

[grimmfaust]

The funny thing, one of those most recent post where I "backpedaled" was a reply to you. Of course you saw it.

You dragged up all my older posts as a response to Maximus when you accused him of rewriting history when he referenced my most recent posts saying I was gonna make a point of buying from Getsnus,

In fact he has on other posts expressed the fact that as he would like to see them succeed as it gives us all more options, he plans on ordering from them as well.

Oh, one more thing Maximus, as too your quote above. Are we rewriting history now? My opinion has been partly based on the quotes from sagedil below.

Again, one of those posts was a direct response to you, which YOU responded to, so OBVIOUSLY had read it.

Yes, I"backpedaled" Yes, after much thought, felt I had been a bit unfair towards Getsnus, so felt it was important to come back and publicly state that I intend to order from them.

Yet, you STILL dodge that part, and just throw up my older posts again. Why?

Again, your backpeddling is not in question...I understand your change in stance...that's ok. I commented and did not understand your comments I quoted..that is all...

[Maximus]

I went back and reread and found it. I think then maybe that is where this all got derailed. I assume maybe incorrectly that he read it as personal and that is where it went from there.

Can we all just agree to pop another snus?

[grimmfaust]

I went back and reread and found it. I think then maybe that is where this all got derailed. I assume maybe incorrectly that he read it as personal and that is where it went from there.

Can we all just agree to pop another snus?

No...he may have taken it personal...but no insults were used or specific attacks...it's not right.

And you chiding for "personal" attacks was not right either. It was the other way around.

I'm fine..I've been snusing this whole time... :shock:

Amazing the energy to type they give you :shock:

[sagedil]

Look, we can go at this all night, so let's jump off this merry-go-round and see if we can come to some agreements.

You like Getsnus, I can dig that.

You don't like it when negative things are posted about getsnus, I don't quite get that if there is no affiliation, but your right, I won't dispute that.

I have said all I think I need to say about Getsnus' forum. I certainly don't need to beat a dead horse. I may be in a small minority, but felt it was a valid thing to point out.

So I won't make any more comments about Getsnus's forum, it's done.

I have been VERY clear in my posts Friday that I do want to see Getsnus' store successful. You want it to be successful too clearly, so we agree on that point.

So grimmfaust, lets you and me agree that we are actually in accord in that last part, and go forward together singing the praises of snus.

And everyone else, please drop it. Stop attacking me, stop attacking grimmfaust. And attacking isn't really the right word, it's just 1:38 in the blessed morning and I can't think of a better word.

Agreed fellow snuser? :wink:

[Maximus]

I will apologize if anyone has taken anything I have posted as chiding or demeaning or attacking. That was never my intent.

I enjoy the snus I have gotten from GetSnus as well as look forward to the Nordstrommen I expect to get next week from Northerner and the new Ice Tool from GetSnus.

[meta]

I want to comment about the GetSnus forum, but not to get in the middle of the above dialog. This still seems the best place to give my $.02.

I haven't been snus-ing long, but I found GetSnus via SnusOn, and not vice-versa.

Had I found GetSnus first and concluded it was the best source for information exchange regarding snus, I imagine I would be ordering Ettan, General Original and Phantom Blue for the rest of my snus-ing days. I would have lived in quiet, content ignorance... knowing nothing of my now beloved Pall Mall (aka, "Heaven in a can").

But I can also understand GetSnus' reasons for not wanting posters to focus on products they don't carry or pushing customers to their competitors. They're trying to run a business, right?

For that reason alone, I don't think their forum will ever be a threat to the SnusOn community. I don't believe they have the readership nor market share to cause anyone to stop reading/posting here in favor of their forum. The biggest issue is that some poor guy might stumble upon it and stop there... never expanding his snus world-view.

Finally, did you see the post over there from the guy looking for an easier/safer way to open his snus? Apparently he was popping off the catch-can lid, then cutting thru the plastic with a knife to get to the good stuff. I laughed so hard I almost choked on my snus!