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  • justintempler
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    • Nov 2008
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    Oregon Proposed Taxes

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    House bill curbs advertising, increases taxes on smokeless tobacco
    The bill also bans the practice of handing out samples
    The Clackamas Review, Apr 22, 2009, Updated 5 hours ago

    The Oregon House today passed a bill that would require all smokeless tobacco products to adhere to federally mandated marketing restrictions placed on older existing brands in an effort to curb youth advertising campaigns. The legislation would also increase the tax on such products.

    The bill, co-sponsored by House Speaker Dave Hunt, D-Gladstone, came about partially as a response to the proliferation of smokeless tobacco products critics said targeted young customers. In 2006, Camel used the Portland region and Austin, Texas as test markets for its Snus smokeless tobacco. Smoking cessation advocates cried foul, saying the colorful ads with their rhyming slogans were designed to attract young people.

    The bill also prevents companies from handing out free samples of smokeless tobacco, something Rep. Carloyn Tomei, D-Milwaukie, said was happening everywhere from the streets of Portland to rodeos and fairs in eastern Oregon, particularly since Washington already has a ban. She introduced a similar bill earlier this year.

    “Oregon has become the place where they have campaigns for smokeless tobacco,” she said. “They’re handing out free Snus samples, and to whom did they hand it out? Not people my age; it’s the young ones.”

    The bill would tax smokeless tobacco by the can and the weight instead of as a percentage of the price. The tax will be a flat $2.14 on all cans of smokeless tobacco that weigh 1.2 ounces.

    The bill puts Oregon on track to become the first state to include all smokeless tobacco companies in the restrictions on youth marketing in the federal smokeless tobacco master settlement agreement. Previously, only items in existence at the time of the master settlement in 1998 were covered. According to Geoff Sugerman, Hunt’s spokesperson, that meant only a handful of products were covered. In the past decade, dozens of new smokeless items have popped up as tobacco companies have searched for a way to sell products while dealing with increased taxes and restrictions on cigarettes.

    The bill passed the House 40-18.

    “They may look like gum. They may look like breath mints. They may taste like candy. But make no mistake – these products will kill our children. This is tobacco with training wheels,” said State Rep. Sara Gelser, D-Corvallis, who co-sponsored the current bill along with Hunt. “This bill will stop kids from taking up another dangerous habit that today falls outside the tobacco master settlement agreement regulating advertising aimed at teens.”

    The bill now moves on to the Oregon Senate.


    A vending display for Snus, a smokeless, spitless tobacco Camel first marketed in Portland and Austin, Texas. A new house bill would limit advertising for such products while increasing taxes on them.

    jim clark / pamplin media group
  • Soft Morning, City!
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    • Sep 2007
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    #2
    Another bullet on the list of reasons I'm glad I don't live in Portland anymore.

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    • justintempler
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      • Nov 2008
      • 3090

      #3
      According to the info I have the Oregon cigarette tax is $1.18/pack.
      They are proposing another $0.60/pack cigarettes.

      $1.18 + $0.60 = $1.78 for cigarettes Vs. $2.14 for smokeless?
      WTF?
      Smokeless is going to be taxed more than cigarettes?

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      • Soft Morning, City!
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        • Sep 2007
        • 772

        #4
        Originally posted by justintempler
        According to the info I have the Oregon cigarette tax is $1.18/pack.
        They are proposing another $0.60/pack cigarettes.

        $1.18 + $0.60 = $1.78 for cigarettes Vs. $2.14 for smokeless?
        WTF?
        Smokeless is going to be taxed more than cigarettes?
        Yeah, that makes no sense at all. But really, has ANY tobacco legislation as of late made much sense?

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        • deebocools
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          • Nov 2008
          • 661

          #5
          Some state needs to take a chance and stop the taxes/legislation of smokeless for good. It would be a haven, and I would honestly consider living there while snus is more completely inroduced to the US.

          Northerner says PA has no smokeless tax, so that's the most obvious choice. Somewhere in the south should step up to the plate as well

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          • sagedil
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            • Nov 2007
            • 7077

            #6
            Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
            Another bullet on the list of reasons I'm glad I don't live in Portland anymore.
            You lived there too?? My ex and I decided to move there when we graduated Berkeley. I loved it, but she had a harder time with the winter. The next year, I took a transfer within my company back to the Bay Area.

            I still miss it sometimes.

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            • Soft Morning, City!
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              • Sep 2007
              • 772

              #7
              [quote="sagedil"]
              Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
              You lived there too?? My ex and I decided to move there when we graduated Berkeley. I loved it, but she had a harder time with the winter. The next year, I took a transfer within my company back to the Bay Area.

              I still miss it sometimes.
              Indeed, I did. I liked it, but when I was there the unemployment was pretty bad and it was full of douchey scenesters. The area itself is gorgeous. I'd totally live in Oregon again, but not in Portland itself. I've come to the realization that I prefer small towns to big cities.

              I didn't have a hard time with my first Portland winter. However, the second one was miserable for me. I suffer from pretty serious depression as is, but during that second Portland winter it got as bad as it's ever been. I had to get out.

              I'd love to go back and visit Portland sometime soon though. Great town. I don't miss the people though.

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              • Roo
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                • Jun 2008
                • 3446

                #8
                I adore Portland and honestly think that of all the US cities I've visited, the people are more friendly there than anywhere else. Of course, this is just my opinion from my personal experience. And I'm biased. While Seattle has been home on-and-off for a total of 10 years, I have lived in Portland as well on-and-off for about 10 years. Both cities I consider my hometown. Pacific Northwest FTW!

                PS: Soft Morning City, the hipster scene there is definitely beyond overboard. Completely out of control. Agree with you there 100%. I'm glad Portland still holds a special place in your heart, for at least a few reasons. The winters up here do completely suck though.

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                • spirit72
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                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1013

                  #9
                  Sounds like Oregonians need to write their state legislature and tell them where they can put their new tax.

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                  • Mohave
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 73

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Soft Morning, City!
                    Another bullet on the list of reasons I'm glad I don't live in Portland anymore.
                    I'll join the club then. 25 years there: 20 of them in a pleasant port city, and 5 in a painfully pretentious narcissistic hipster heaven overrun with knapsack toting little geeks.

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                    • SeneNatten
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 34

                      #11
                      Hm. The smoking cessation folks don't like advertising for smokeless tobacco. Odd.

                      As a current Portlander, I can say that there is a very strong anti-smokeless prejudice here. People don't realize that a person could use smokeless tobacco as anything but a gateway to smoking. I doubt they've even considered that it could be a gateway from smoking.

                      For the ex-Portlanders, the douchey scenesters have multiplied. I can deal with odd fashions; it is the self-entitlement that bothers me.

                      Meh. There aren't many places where you're a daytrip away from ocean, desert, and mountains. Relatively bicycle friendly place, which is good for me. As for the winters: well, I can only compare it to an Indiana winter, but I'll take the same amount of sunshine with 30 degrees more warmth anytime.

                      And we now have a basketball team.

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                      • Soft Morning, City!
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                        • Sep 2007
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SeneNatten

                        As a current Portlander, I can say that there is a very strong anti-smokeless prejudice here. People don't realize that a person could use smokeless tobacco as anything but a gateway to smoking. I doubt they've even considered that it could be a gateway from smoking.

                        For the ex-Portlanders, the douchey scenesters have multiplied. I can deal with odd fashions; it is the self-entitlement that bothers me..
                        I can vouch for the anti-smokeless prejudice in Portland. I got a lot of weird looks from people when I'd take out my can of snus and put in a portion. One time a guy came up and asked me, "how can you put that shit in your mouth?" I was sitting outside of the coffee shop between Irving and Johnson on NW 21st. (I can't remember the name right now). The guy then proceeded to sit down at a nearby table and light up a Marlboro Red. Awesome.

                        I moved away in winter of 2008. At that time, the scenesters were everywhere. I can only imagine that it's gotten worse in the meantime.

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                        • Mohave
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 73

                          #13
                          In their Portland test market they needed to either highlight it as "organic" or else "edgy & rebellious." Maybe use a logo of an angry camel with spiked hair and tats, in a forest or sumpin.
                          Originally posted by SeneNatten
                          ...a daytrip away from ocean...
                          That is the one regret I have. Not just any ol' garden variety ocean, but a spectacular rugged shoreline which is awesome in rough weather. But, one good righteous earthquake and Las Vegas could be graced with a coastline one day. I assure you we'd put it to better use than Santa Monica. Everybody to the left of me please jump up and down all together now real hard...

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                          • Quemador
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                            • Apr 2009
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                            #14
                            The key to Oregon is the rural towns. Not too rural though, you probably want to avoid "deliverance." I prefer the small coastal towns, not the real tourista towns like Sea Side but more along the lines of Otter Rock... Even Yachats or Coos Bay would be nice. I think Astoria is fantastic. Other hidden gems can be found in the Gorge. Anyhoo, I think there are plenty of towns to choose from if you'd like to live in Oregon without having to be subjected to Portland.

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                            • Norwester
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 178

                              #15
                              I grew up in Astoria and over a 40 yr span lived up and down the Oregon coast eking out a living as a commercial fisherman. Left it and moved near Salem about the time the seafood industry bottomed. The coast is a great place to visit and/or retire but if you have to make a living its not a good choice unless you want to do it in the service industry.

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