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[atrolinger]

can someone please explain this pact act. I usualy spend $50 a month on offroad. am I now going to be paying $100 for the same amount. I usually order 25 cans. oh and dont forget the damn shipping costs now. so like $125.

[rickcharles606]

Where in the hell is Chad with that damned dead horse??


@atrolinger.....PACT stands for Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking. While it's supposed to target cigarettes, it does affect our beloved snus and other forms of tobacco that I'm going to allow you to look up. Effectively what this does, it prevents the mailing of tobacco products (except cigars) through the USPS, it forces webshops to use UPS to deliver (which is more expensive to them and you), it forces webshops to collect state sales taxes, any local taxes and the state tobacco taxes. Also, the FDA has required snus manufacturers, that wish to sell their products in the US, to register the ingredients of each product with FDA. Not all are willing to do this, for a list of which have/have not...please do a search on the forum.

Ultimately, you will still be able to get Offroad, but it'll cost you a bit more. Not really sure about the prices you quoted above, but I'm pretty sure the price won't double.

[cj]

the way i see it is we can still get a lot of the snus that we love i take that as a blessing its still not right what the obama ass munch and his band of rump raiders did to us here with there dumb pact act oh and i just made my biggest order ever with getsnus had to stock up on bla and pm 1847 got mu father inlaw a roll of thunder frost he loves it he gave up skoal for snus i am very happy about that so all total for my big order is $155.28 for 50 cans shipped ground ups i dont think thats to bad

[PipenSnus]

...PACT stands for Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking. While it's supposed to target cigarettes, it does affect our beloved snus and other forms of tobacco that I'm going to allow you to look up. Effectively what this does, it prevents the mailing of tobacco products (except cigars) through the USPS...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think pipe tobacco is exempt from the mailing ban, too. At least the online pipe tobacco vendors I buy from haven't said anything about not being able to mail it, only that they're discontinuing snus and snuff.

[Darwin]

[QUOTE=cj;288641] its still not right what the obama ass munch and his band of rump raiders did to us here with there dumb pact act

Ain't no Obama lover here but it must be said that few if any Republican congress critters voted against it. This one was apparently under the radar of even the supposed small gummint boosters.

[sgreger1]

[QUOTE=Darwin;288774]

its still not right what the obama ass munch and his band of rump raiders did to us here with there dumb pact act

Ain't no Obama lover here but it must be said that few if any Republican congress critters voted against it. This one was apparently under the radar of even the supposed small gummint boosters.

That's because PACT didn't get on the talkshow echo chamber circuit. That's how powerfull the cig companies are, they managed to not make this into a "big government f!cking us" thing. People will dedicate time and resources to find a conspiracy in Obama's birth certificate from 50 years ago, but things like PACT go largely un-mentioned, though I see it as one of the worst pieces of legislation passed this year. It is banning the mailing of legal US items, all in an attempt to free up marketshare for a certain industry (cigs) while destroying another (snus).

[Darwin]

Even if the major cig companies were trying to suppress public discussion about this issue they had an incredibly easy job because of the default anti-tobacco stance of most of the media. I frequent a number of major political sites which seem in no way lapdogs of big tobacco that I have ever noticed but there was zero discussion of this. As far as the broadcast media and the progressive web punditocracy are concerned we do not merit the exalted status of aggrieved minorities so we are poop out of luck. Additionally the great standing army of anti-tobacco zealots presently on the offensive in this country have every last man-jack and woman-jill politician completely cowed on this issue. In the current environment big tobacco hardly needed to lift a finger with so many others doing their work for them.

[rickcharles606]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think pipe tobacco is exempt from the mailing ban, too. At least the online pipe tobacco vendors I buy from haven't said anything about not being able to mail it, only that they're discontinuing snus and snuff.

yeah dude, I'm thinking you're correct on this, but not 100% on it, more like 98%...ish...lol

[tr1n3ty]

Ugh...so my state jumped on board and raised its "lowest in the nation" sales tax by .50 cents to, "Help curb minors from purchasing cigarettes and help fund the state's growing health care system." They went on to say the reasons they did it were for the public health and to protect "the children." Now, I may not be the smartest person around here but I definitely know exactly why they did it: They are facing a massive deficit because they are very shi**y at making a budget; they needed a guaranteed source of funding that wouldn't be affected by a fifty-cent increase in prices; what groups are the least affected by price increases? That would be automobile owners who need to purchase gas to travel and tobacco users. Now our state officials so badly wanted re-elected that they wouldn't dare touch the gas taxes, so they made up a super phony reason to tax tobacco users so that they look good preying on a "reliable source of income." Very messed up stuff I'd say...
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Well, I read back through some of these posts and I think that some of these members may not necessarily comprehend fully what the old GetSnus.com was. I'll help: GetSnus.com was owned and operated by Swedish Match. They set the site up not with the intention of making money, but by gaining an entry into the U.S. market through ultra-cheap prices and gimmicks [mystery can/5 can rolls/etc]. They could afford to do this because they make $NINE BILLION a year. Compared to Frederick at Northerner, it would be like taking a local specialty store and making it compete with Wal-Mart. It just cannot happen. Therefore, most of the stuff you have seen on the old GetSnus.com was nothing more than a one time thing, that's it. They would have eventually cut the free shipping and the mystery cans and the stuff like that, and then you would have been yelling and raising Kane about Swedish Match too It's just simple economics, if it seems too good to be true, well...it almost always is. I started out my sn00b days through GetSnus.com because they had the best deals, but I now realize that it was only a tactic of Swedish Match. Not much can be done here, I would be spending a tad less time lamenting the loss of something that was guaranteed to go away and focus on preparing for PACT.

Speaking of that...I really, really hope that Oden's goes along with the FDA regulations, the kanel is delicious! I'm glad Thunder did too, the Frosted spearmint is tasty, especially now that it's summer.

-Chris.

[Owens187]

$28.00 rolls. Fairly priced shipping.

Getsnus/anything Northerner has officially lost my buisiness due to the price (gouging) increases. Used to be all I'd order from.

[tom502]

SM snus prices are all going up too. And while Skruf hasn't done the FDA thing yet, there is also word that they may make their portion weight smaller.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think pipe tobacco is exempt from the mailing ban, too. At least the online pipe tobacco vendors I buy from haven't said anything about not being able to mail it, only that they're discontinuing snus and snuff.

I thought only cigars are exempt. And what happened to them adding pipe tobacco to that 2500000000% (or whatever) tax hike RYO got hit with? Your right about the pipe tobacco shops not saying anything right now, but pipers are definitely stockpiling and they are not spending their money on pipes.

[PipenSnus]

You're right about the tax hike. Pipers are stocking up so that they can take advantage of the current prices. But I still haven't seen any vendor say they won't be able to send pipe tobacco through the mail.