Question for V2 in regards to Thunder line

[Snus Boost]

I have a tendency to be a little long winded so I will state my case and to make it easier I'll post my questions in numbered form. I will start with saying that I guess I am a typical American in some regards since I looked at my order summary and noticed that most of my favorites are snus that are "Made for America". I have no problem with it, thats just the way the cards fell. The funny thing is I hear that a lot of these are geared toward people that Dip and I have never used any form of smokeless tobacco in my life until snus. I do for some reason loathe Marlboro,Camel and now Skoal snus they just are not for me.
To the point of my question. I noticed that Thunder Berry Blend,Frosted and Wintergreen all are stated to have 16MG of nicotine. I also noticed that the Long+Strong is listed at 12 MG and the Thunder Mini is 16 MG. It feels to me like the Mini is weaker than the long+strong even though it has another 4 Mg of nicotine. To be Honest sometimes the Thunder Frosted is just too much and makes me sick to my stomach I don't know if that is because it juices so much or it's just the nicotine. Are the Berry Blend and Wintergreen most likely going to do the same thing? I am still going to order all 6 I know the only way to find out is to try them I just want to try and make and educated guess about the ratio of each in my order. So here are the questions.
1. Are Berry Blend and Wintergreen made the same way as Frosted?
2. Are Berry Blend and Wintergreen going to juice as much as Frosted?
3. Am I just as likely to feel sick sometimes with the other two as happens with Frosted?
4. Is there a possibility that Berry Blend and Wintergreen will be available in the future as long?
Thanks for your time I hope I got my point across. This wouldn't be nesseccary if I could just go to the store and try them but I don't have that luxury and I don't want to end up with 15 cans that I can't use in my order. Thats a waste of good snus so I will end up using them whether I like them or not. Also the shipping is killing me not just the money the waiting and making sure I am home for the age verification is a hassle to.

[sgreger1]

I have no experience with V2 Wintergreen, so I won't comment on that. However, I only use thunder products, i.e. mainly thunder frosted or berry, and sometimes orriginal.

1. Thunder berry is "made" the same as frosted. It is the same thing essentially but flavored differently. For some reason the thunder frosted seems slightly higher in nic than the berry, but that may just be in my head as I think they are supposed to bo equal.

2. Berry is going to juice just as much as frosted. V2 always ships snus to me either way too moist or way too dry. Usually too moist, so if juicing was an issue with frosted for your, berry will likely be an issue as well.

3. Why are you feeling sick? If it makes you dizzy or nauseous than it's because it has too much nicotene. Thunder frosted (or thunder products in general) are the strongest as far as nic, so if your not use dto it this may cause you to feel a bit sick to the stomach.

4. No idea if they plan on making a long version.

[Veganpunk]

I have no experience with V2 Wintergreen, so I won't comment on that. However, I only use thunder products, i.e. mainly thunder frosted or berry, and sometimes orriginal.

1. Thunder berry is "made" the same as frosted. It is the same thing essentially but flavored differently. For some reason the thunder frosted seems slightly higher in nic than the berry, but that may just be in my head as I think they are supposed to bo equal.

2. Berry is going to juice just as much as frosted. V2 always ships snus to me either way too moist or way too dry. Usually too moist, so if juicing was an issue with frosted for your, berry will likely be an issue as well.

3. Why are you feeling sick? If it makes you dizzy or nauseous than it's because it has too much nicotene. Thunder frosted (or thunder products in general) are the strongest as far as nic, so if your not use dto it this may cause you to feel a bit sick to the stomach.

4. No idea if they plan on making a long version.

I agree with all of this, and would just like to add that V2 wintergreen is better tasting than General, but not as good as Jakobossons. All points that Sgreger made apply to the Wintergreen as well.

[Experimental Monkey]

The Frosted makes me sick sometimes as well. The flavoring just gets too harsh and upsets my stomach.

[jagmanss]

I have no experience with V2 Wintergreen, so I won't comment on that. However, I only use thunder products, i.e. mainly thunder frosted or berry, and sometimes orriginal.

1. Thunder berry is "made" the same as frosted. It is the same thing essentially but flavored differently. For some reason the thunder frosted seems slightly higher in nic than the berry, but that may just be in my head as I think they are supposed to bo equal.

2. Berry is going to juice just as much as frosted. V2 always ships snus to me either way too moist or way too dry. Usually too moist, so if juicing was an issue with frosted for your, berry will likely be an issue as well.

3. Why are you feeling sick? If it makes you dizzy or nauseous than it's because it has too much nicotene. Thunder frosted (or thunder products in general) are the strongest as far as nic, so if your not use dto it this may cause you to feel a bit sick to the stomach.

4. No idea if they plan on making a long version.

I would also have to agree with this and also have no experience with V2 Wintergreen or any Wintergreen because I can't stand Wintergreen snus...

I also want to clear something up for you... You stated That Thunder Mini is 16 MG.... It is not...Both Thunder Strong Mini and Thunder Frosted Strong MINI are 8 mg per portion...It feels to to you like the Mini's are weaker than the long+strong Because they are weaker by 4 mg.... The info for those 2 on Northerner are wrong and have been for some time now....

[Snus Boost]

I would also have to agree with this and also have no experience with V2 Wintergreen or any Wintergreen because I can't stand Wintergreen snus...

I also want to clear something up for you... You stated That Thunder Mini is 16 MG.... It is not...Both Thunder Strong Mini and Thunder Frosted Strong MINI are 8 mg per portion... The info for those 2 on Northerner are wrong and have been for some time now....

Northerner is where I got that information. I noticed the long was 12 and felt stronger than the mini. As far as the nicotine making me sick I don't think thats what it is I am fine when I use Jakobssons strong Wintergreen and Mint although they are 14 I don't think 2 mg makes that much difference. I am also fine with Thunder Frosted Stong Loose. I have a portion in right now of Thunder Frosted and it isn't bothering me but it isnt juicing up really bad either. I guess I can chalk it up to the some portions too dry some portions too wet that was stated above. I might as well just order 2 Wintergreen and 2 Berry and see what happens.
I only quit smoking a little over 3 weeks ago so it's always a good idea to keep something strong for those times I get a serious craving. I tried just using General white portions and a few different regulars and I noticed I started craving a cigarette more often and with much greater intensity. I guess until it's been a little longer since I smoked I will keep Jakobssons Strong and Thunder as the staple of my rotation and if I end up just using strong portions from now on I am still much better off than I was smoking 2 packs a day.

[Veganpunk]

Snus Boost, have you dabbled in nasal snuff yet? I smoked the first 5 months while I was snusing. When I threw snuff in the mix (the nic hit is very similar to smoking) I almost instantly quit smoking.

[Mill]

Northerner is where I got that information. I noticed the long was 12 and felt stronger than the mini. As far as the nicotine making me sick I don't think thats what it is I am fine when I use Jakobssons strong Wintergreen and Mint although they are 14 I don't think 2 mg makes that much difference. I am also fine with Thunder Frosted Stong Loose. I have a portion in right now of Thunder Frosted and it isn't bothering me but it isnt juicing up really bad either. I guess I can chalk it up to the some portions too dry some portions too wet that was stated above. I might as well just order 2 Wintergreen and 2 Berry and see what happens.
I only quit smoking a little over 3 weeks ago so it's always a good idea to keep something strong for those times I get a serious craving. I tried just using General white portions and a few different regulars and I noticed I started craving a cigarette more often and with much greater intensity. I guess until it's been a little longer since I smoked I will keep Jakobssons Strong and Thunder as the staple of my rotation and if I end up just using strong portions from now on I am still much better off than I was smoking 2 packs a day.

You are FAR better off than smoking.

Also consider trying some loose snus. Once I got the cigs stopped I started trying all kinds of los and it is easier to adjust it to the size you want at a given moment.

[Darwin]

V2 may also be a bit at fault here along with Northerner. The spec is 16mg of nicotine per gram of snus but since minis are only .5mg then they have 8mg each. The long strong is about .75 gram and the full size is about one gram. If the nic in a given snus is shown per gram then you have to do the math yourself. 8mg of nic is the upper limit so far for a mini portion. The average for most minis in in the 4mg range and the quantity of tobacco averages .5 grams.

[Jwalker]

Just open the can and let the moisture dry out a bit, that or "mop up" the juice with a kleenex. I find the moist thunder hits a lot harder than when it's dry, but my first three cans there was like 2cm of water and the portions were soaked they tasted like preseratives too but they hit me so hard I doubled up and they hit me hard I had to lie down for an hour I was just sick.

[Snus Boost]

Veganpunk No I have not tried nasal snuff. I would like to and it sounds like a good idea until you consider the class of people I am around sometimes that I am sure would think it was something else. What would be good to start with and is it available in tobacco shops?
Jwalker Thanks I was actually considering doing that especially when I noticed how the 3 that I had left were dried out and they were perfect. I am about to place another order but it won't get here until Monday whether I order it tonight or tomorrow I just need to pull the trigger I am driving my self crazy over thinking it.

[Snus Boost]

Update in case anyone else has similar questions in the future.
I got Berry today and I am not having any problem with too much juice. I also noticed that the portions are not soaked like all of my cans of Frosted were. The Thunder mini I opened almost looks like a white portion so I guess they are just a little inconsistent in how much moisture is applied which is fine with me because with a little less moisture I am not having them make me feel sick even when I put a portion in my bottom lip (my top gums need a rest).

[v2]

1. Are Berry Blend and Wintergreen made the same way as Frosted?
2. Are Berry Blend and Wintergreen going to juice as much as Frosted?
3. Am I just as likely to feel sick sometimes with the other two as happens with Frosted?
4. Is there a possibility that Berry Blend and Wintergreen will be available in the future as long?

Hi
i will try to answer them:
1. Yes
2. The big different is the flavor, and Frosted is more juice then berry and WG
3. I use Thunder Berry, and i do not recognize the problem. Frosted is more juice... some love it, somebody not
4. Yes

[snusjus]

I remember reading somewhere that mint and wintergreen facilitates the absorption of nicotine from smokeless tobacco. I would post a link, but I can't remember which study cited it.

[chadizzy1]

I remember reading somewhere that mint and wintergreen facilitates the absorption of nicotine from smokeless tobacco. I would post a link, but I can't remember which study cited it.

http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/gran...applid=7742417