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  • Kenny09
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 29

    Question for Swedish Match guys...

    In Czech Republic I can buy GENERAL CHEWING TOBACCO. I just want to ask Joakim and Markus, if this product is safer like original snus, or has higher level of nitrosamines like american chewing tobacco.
    Thank you.
  • chadizzy1
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 7432

    #2
    Found a place to buy it
    http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/index...c=1033&man=306
    I may try some.

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    • MojoQuestor
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 2344

      #3
      Cool site.

      Originally posted by chadizzy1
      Found a place to buy it
      http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/index...c=1033&man=306
      I may try some.
      You may have to make special arrangements:


      We would like to apologize to all our customers in the United States of America. Due to new rules imposed by our credit card acquirer, we will no longer be able to accept credit card payments for Tobacco, Cigars or Snuff on this site.

      We appreciate your custom but we have to abide by rules set by credit card companies. If you would like further information please email us and we will do our best to help you. We will be happy to supply all the other products on this web site as the ruling only applies to the purchase of TOBACCO LEAF PRODUCTS when accepting payment with a CREDIT CARD.

      If you would like to get in touch regarding this matter please feel free to do so at information@mysmokingshop.co.uk

      Thank you for your understanding on this matter.
      http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/usa-shipment.html

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        The smokingshop is selling Tobacco CUTS, not General Chewing Tobacco, which is like a long cut chew. The CUTS are different.

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        • justintempler
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3090

          #5
          :roll:

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          • Mazur
            Member
            • May 2007
            • 159

            #6
            Originally posted by chadizzy1
            You may have to make special arrangements:


            We would like to apologize to all our customers in the United States of America. Due to new rules imposed by our credit card acquirer, we will no longer be able to accept credit card payments for Tobacco, Cigars or Snuff on this site.

            We appreciate your custom but we have to abide by rules set by credit card companies. If you would like further information please email us and we will do our best to help you. We will be happy to supply all the other products on this web site as the ruling only applies to the purchase of TOBACCO LEAF PRODUCTS when accepting payment with a CREDIT CARD.

            If you would like to get in touch regarding this matter please feel free to do so at information@mysmokingshop.co.uk

            Thank you for your understanding on this matter.
            http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/usa-shipment.html

            Solution:

            They should make their customer pay for MYSMOKINGSHOP BEAUTIFUL STICKER (or anything alse) and include tobacco free

            For example:

            Customer pay 42,90 for Beautifull Sticker and gets 10 cans of Swedish Match General Chewing Tobacco for free.

            And all is legal.

            I think that there are much more ways to omit goverment regulations, because they are more and more irritating

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            • justintempler
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 3090

              #7
              Originally posted by Mazur

              And all is legal.

              I think that there are much more ways to omit goverment regulations, because they are more and more irritating
              As far as I know, It's got nothing to do with government regulations.

              The credit card companies made the rules because tobacco purchases have such a high rate of chargebacks.

              and once again mysmokingshop sells General Tobacco Cuts not General Chewing Tobacco. They are 2 different products.

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              • chadizzy1
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 7432

                #8
                Re: Question for Swedish Match guys...

                Interesting.

                Removed original post and PM'd. Thanks.

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                • Mazur
                  Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 159

                  #9
                  [quote="justintempler"]
                  Originally posted by Mazur
                  The credit card companies made the rules because tobacco purchases have such a high rate of chargebacks.
                  I didnt't know that. Looks I'm a bit oversensitive about goverments.

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                  • Grim
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 850

                    #10
                    Last time I checked some American Chews were lower in TSNAs than Snus.

                    Red Man for instance

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                    • captncaveman
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 924

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Grim
                      Last time I checked some American Chews were lower in TSNAs than Snus.

                      Red Man for instance
                      Red Man is a product of Swedish match. It could also me steam treated such as snus.

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                      • snusjus
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2674

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grim
                        Last time I checked some American Chews were lower in TSNAs than Snus.

                        Red Man for instance
                        I don't use chewing tobacco, since it contains sugar. The sugar content is worse for your teeth than the TSNA content. The only alternative is Red Man Silver, since its sugar-free.

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                        • Bigblue1
                          Banned Users
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3923

                          #13
                          This whole TSNA issue is moot and I am suspicious of it myself. !0 or 5 TSNA's per gram makes no difference. There was some bad data put out awhile ago, don't make me search for it, But it was bad info made dry American snuff look especially terrible. Then they retracted and changed the figures...

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                          • Bigblue1
                            Banned Users
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3923

                            #14
                            Well, I had to go find it. So here it is
                            http://cro.sagepub.com/cgi/content/full/15/5/252#(A)_TSNAs%97historical%3Cfont%20size=-1%3E_%3C/font%3Elevels
                            scroll down half way and look at TABLE 2 TSNA Levelsa in American and Swedish Tobacco Products, 2003
                            and look under that and above this (V) Other Putative Carcinogens and you will see that things aren't that much diffrent if at all

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                            • Markus and Joakim
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 129

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              The tobacco that is put into tobacco cuts are bought after the same chemical specifications as snus but the product has slightly higher levels of TSNA. Tobacco cuts have approx 3,4 ppm while our snus products have levels between 0,5 and 1 ppm.

                              BR,
                              J&M

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