You people are something else, unreal. Only one person said anything productive and worthwhile to the original question.
I say cigarettes are better?? I work for cigarette companies, are you people out of your friggin minds? I feel like the people who frequent forums.... Its almost like trying to have a discussion on some kind of religious forum or something.
I just have always seen that graph without the supporting article with it, and was wondering if anyone could provide more information.
I gave my opinion on the graph that I feel its making some kind of unfair comparison and missing information I am curious about. I have used snus and still use it to this day. right now i have general loose, kronan, skruff cranberry, odens, gotlandlandus julessnus, 01, 02 and nick and johnny black right in front of me. I buy my snus from northerner and buysnus.com
I also fkn made a youtube video about the benefits of using snus to quit cigarette smoking on the ecig forum.. Why dont you mention that to people??
Sorry, lxskllr and Snusdog, but I think that Anthony is on a better track.
Paladinx posts on dipper-forums, saying he's a dipper, but he only badmouths dip.
He posts on e-gig forums only to ridicule the devices.
And now he posts on Snuson, but only about his exaggerated health concerns or the (in his view) weird taste of real snus.
All the time with an undertone (mostly disguised in a somewhat intelligent manner) that cigarettes are better. And all the time with a wording that can discourage new people to try the respective cigarette-alternative.
BTW, according to SMPOST, the dippers-forum, he uses snus since 2006. I read some of his postings there when I was a snus-newbie. I only wondered why they didn't ban him.
I don't know what Paldinx' problem is, but his postings qualify almost as a definition of trolling (whether payed by a cigarette company or just for his own sick fun).
Don't feed the troll!
Cheers!
i remember reading something similar before. Im not sure if it was about this same user or another one but it was almost exactly like this post.
I never said snus tasted bad, I said some of the original stuff smells like cat piss when it gets warm. I still use it, i just hate the smell of it when its not refrigerated. your just blowing smoke out of ur ass im going to ignore
anyway let me continue the conversation with anyone else on here who isn't a forum zealot. If I were to make the graph, i probably would have compared the nicotine level of a smoker having a cigarette every 30 mins, to someone who uses a portion every hour and keeps the portion in for 20 mins at a time. This would be a better comparison in my opinion. Who cares? I dunno. Maybe its dumb, its not even like I CARE, i just was always curious about it, and figured why not ask here if anyone is open to an intelligent discussion.
Paladinx posts on dipper-forums, saying he's a dipper, but he only badmouths dip.
He posts on e-gig forums only to ridicule the devices.
And now he posts on Snuson, but only about his exaggerated health concerns or the (in his view) weird taste of real snus.
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BTW, according to SMPOST, the dippers-forum, he uses snus since 2006. a cigarette company or just for his own sick fun).
You guys are idiots and know nothing of what your talking about.
Im like the only person who made a snus video review to share with people on the E-cig forum under their smokeless section. You idiots dont mention that fact though. Can you get off my case? only ONE person here said anything worthwhile. And this is the "expert" section of the forum. You guys are just making the forum look bad with your childish antics.
The question you are so persistantly asking just doesn't make sense to us. Imagine you were throwing a party, and you had a problem with either not getting drunk enough or getting too drunk. Instead of paying attention to how you feel at the party like everyone else, you stood around blowing into a breathylizer every 10 minutes to monitor your BAC, and not only that, but you also "badgered" everyone else at the party to do the same and demanded that everyone give you straight answers as to how many mL of pure alcohol you were ingesting with each sip of your Bud Light. Likewise, you might find that the rest of the party simply does not give a shit, and that everyone thinks it's a bit silly to require a BAC reading from a breathylizer to determine how much fun they are having and precisely how many beers they should imbibe to make it a good party. I think it works out to about 33.5 fluid ounces per hour.
I dont buy that analogy. Im not demanding shit from anyone. It was merely a question and a discussion on something in particular. Even if people do not care or think its dumb, they have the option of ignoring the thread. Its like going to a seminar you are not interested in and than just making crude remakes and saying how dumb it is. How about just ignore it and not waste your time?
I really dont give a shit if you think my question is retarded, or if it does not make sense to you,,, what pisses me off is the ****ing remarks and comments and all this crap calling me a troll and other nonsense.. cause i said i think the graph was a little retarded in its function. . lets burn me to the stake. you forum assholes are all the same i swear to god.
I dont buy that analogy. Im not demanding shit from anyone. It was merely a question and a discussion on something in particular. Even if people do not care or think its dumb, they have the option of ignoring the thread. Its like going to a seminar you are not interested in and than just making crude remakes and saying how dumb it is. How about just ignore it and not waste your time?
I really dont give a shit if you think my question is retarded, or if it does not make sense to you,,, what pisses me off is the ****ing remarks and comments and all this crap calling me a troll and other nonsense.. cause i said i think the graph was a little retarded in its function. . lets burn me to the stake. you forum assholes are all the same i swear to god.
first of all, if all of these "forum assholes" are they same, why do you choose to frequent this forum? second of all, i would just suggest considering most graphs on this matter relatively ambiguous, and maybe drawing some of your own conjectures with the given information, also, considering the thousands of variables involved it would make it near impossible to acquire the level of accuracy you desire. and lastly, back your shit up on out of here.
Listen, all I was doing was talking about a graph, and people are getting on me, saying im a forum troll, putting down snus and making a bunch of accusations. thats what pissed me off.
I dont even care if anyone called me a retard and laughed at my question and said it was dumb. I just dont like the false rumors that my intent is just to put down snus or whatever bullshit that guy was saying.
I have a general portion in my lip as im typing this. I use the product. its cut my smoking down in half. But it is not as satisfying to me as a cigarette, but it works.
Here's some chemical facts about nicotine.
This article is from Bodybuilding.com, and is a very neutral source that not only talk about the negative...
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